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		<title>&#8220;This may be the only political issue whose results could be catastrophic permanently&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2010/08/19/this-may-be-the-only-political-issue-whose-results-could-be-catastrophic-permanently/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a quick quote from Tom Toles, a pulitzer prize-winning political cartoonist at the Washington Post, about the ongoing &#8220;climate debate&#8221;: &#8220;We are apparently going to let the debate on the science run until hell freezes over. If you &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2010/08/19/this-may-be-the-only-political-issue-whose-results-could-be-catastrophic-permanently/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a quick quote from Tom Toles, a pulitzer prize-winning political cartoonist at the Washington Post, about the ongoing &#8220;climate debate&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We are apparently going to let the debate on the science run until hell freezes over. If you can&#8217;t accept the conclusions of 98 percent of the scientists whose FIELD IT IS, then why even bother with science? If that high a percentage of field of study is to be discounted ENTIRELY, then we are in deep trouble, which, of course, we are. It would be so simple if it were just a matter of ignoring the yelping commenters hereabouts: &#8220;Move on, Mr. Cartoonist! Chill out Tommy! There are more important things to worry about!&#8221; </p>
<p>Really? Which would those things be? This may be the only political issue whose results could be catastrophic PERMANENTLY. But the deliberate dust storm thrown up by fossil-fuel-centric interests has succeeded in contaminating and paralyzing the American response. Quite a victory for the deniers! It looks like mass-suicide to me.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>You can read his whole <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/tomtoles/2010/08/friday_rant_heat_exhaustion_e.html">rant about climate deniers here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Leading Scientist John Holdren Says the Term Global Warming is &#8220;Misleading&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2008/07/14/leading-scientist-john-holdren-says-the-term-global-warming-is-misleading/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Global Warming]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Amy Goodman]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an interview with Amy Goodman on Democracy Now leading scientist John Holdren says the term &#8220;global warming&#8221; is wrong. He rather prefer to use the term &#8220;global disruption.&#8221; &#8220;I don’t like the term &#8220;global warming,&#8221; because it&#8217;s misleading. It &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2008/07/14/leading-scientist-john-holdren-says-the-term-global-warming-is-misleading/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an interview with Amy Goodman on <a href="http://www.democracynow.org">Democracy Now</a> leading scientist <a href="http://www.hks.harvard.edu/about/faculty-staff-directory/john-holdren">John Holdren</a> says the term &#8220;global warming&#8221; is wrong. He rather prefer to use the term &#8220;global disruption.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I don’t like the term &#8220;global warming,&#8221; because it&#8217;s misleading. It implies something that&#8217;s mainly about temperature, that&#8217;s gradual, and that’s uniform across the planet. And in fact, temperature is only one of the things that&#8217;s changing. It’s a sort of an index of the state of climate. The whole climate is changing: the winds, the ocean currents, the storm patterns, snow packs, snowmelt, flooding, droughts. Temperature is just a bit of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s also highly non-uniform. The largest changes are occurring in the far north in the Arctic, in the Antarctic Peninsula in the far south. It is certainly not gradual, in the sense that it is rapid compared to the capacity of ecosystems to adjust. It&#8217;s rapid compared to the capacity of human systems to adjust.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
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<p>John Holdren also said that he thinks that &#8220;most people, even most scientists, continue to underestimate how far down the path to climate catastrophe we&#8217;ve already travelled,&#8221; and that &#8220;we&#8217;re already experiencing dangerous interference&#8221;.</p>
<p>You can watch and listen to the full interview over at <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2008/7/3/global_disruption_more_accurately_describes_climate">DemocracyNow.org</a></p>
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		<title>&#8220;We would like the rest of the world to follow you&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2008/06/11/we-would-like-the-rest-of-the-world-to-follow-you/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nidhi Jamwa from the Centre for Science and Environment India asks in the organisations journal Down to Earth &#8220;why green projects in India are hot favourite of international NGOs?&#8221; Nidhi Jamwa focuses on a recently started green Sierra Club initiative &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2008/06/11/we-would-like-the-rest-of-the-world-to-follow-you/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nidhi Jamwa from the <em>Centre for Science and Environment India</em> asks in the organisations journal <em>Down to Earth</em> &#8220;<a href="http://www.downtoearth.org.in/full6.asp?foldername=20080531&#038;filename=news&#038;sec_id=4&#038;sid=7">why green projects in India are hot favourite of international NGOs?</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Nidhi Jamwa focuses on a recently started green Sierra Club initiative in India that will try &#8220;to explore other ways of creating a robust dialogue on developing a green economy&#8221; and to &#8220;network, collaborate and share information&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;There it goes again. It is always India and China that are the two emerging villains of climate change. The developed world has built their infrastructure and created wealth, based on technologies that are high on carbon emissions. Even now, it refuses to deliver on its promise to bring down carbon emissions. Yet goes about patronising the developing world on the need for green economy.</p>
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<p>To quote Pope: &#8220;The US has to get rid of old stuff and India has to create new stuff. The Sierra Club can help India make that transition&#8230;India does not have fossil fuel to run a carbon economy, so it should leapfrog to low- carbon economy and switch to renewable sources such as solar, wind power, etc. And all this is available in plenty in India.&#8221;</p>
<p>By the same logic, California should be leading in the switch to green technology as it has plenty of both sun and the sea. If switching to a low-carbon economy was indeed so simple, what was keeping the industrialized world from making the transition?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>We are all in this together. That is for sure. But why should the pressure be on the developing countries to &#8220;leapfrog&#8221; and create a green and sustainable society when the developed (mainly western) countries are the ones that has the highest per capita carbon emissions?</p>
<p>It’s like blaming climate change on our children and the younger generation when it’s actually the older generation who are to be blamed.</p>
<p><em>Via <a href="http://www.arbetaren.se/klimatblogg/2008/06/11/russinen-ar-inte-vara/">Arbetarens Klimatblogg</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>&#8220;The consequences of failure are unimaginable&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2008/05/26/the-consequences-of-failure-are-unimaginable/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[climate change]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mohan Munasinghe, vice-president of the intergovernmental panel on climate change (IPCC), said during a lecture at Cambridge University that climate change will lead to a &#8220;fortress world in which the rich lock themselves away in gated communities and the poor &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2008/05/26/the-consequences-of-failure-are-unimaginable/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://green-blog.org/media/images/2008/05/mohan-munasinghe.jpg" alt="Mohan Munasinghe" title="Mohan Munasinghe" width="200" height="249" class="alignright size-full wp-image-405" /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohan_Munasinghe">Mohan Munasinghe</a>, vice-president of the intergovernmental panel on climate change (IPCC), said during a lecture at Cambridge University that climate change will lead to a &#8220;fortress world in which the rich lock themselves away in gated communities and the poor must fend for themselves in shattered environments.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Climate change is, or could be, the additional factor which will exacerbate the existing problems of poverty, environmental degradation, social polarisation and terrorism and it could lead to a very chaotic situation.[...]</p>
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<p>If you see what is going on in some of the gated communities in some countries you do find that rich people live in those kind of protected environments. If you see the restrictions on international travel you see the beginnings of the fortress world syndrome even in entering and leaving countries.[...]</p>
<p>One of the most distressing aspects is that developing countries are the most vulnerable to climate change and the poorest people will be the hardest hit. This is in fact rather unfair because they had least to do with the problem – apparently they will pay the biggest costs.[...]</p>
<p>I tend to be optimistic because I believe this can be done through rational processes, but I also feel that the consequences of failure are unimaginable and that&#8217;s really the bottom line.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can read the whole article over at <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/may/15/climatechange">the Guardian</a>. You can also vote for this story at <a href="http://green-blog.org/seed/story.php?title=Expert_warns_climate_change_will_lead_to_barbarisation">Green Seed</a>. <a href="http://green-blog.org/seed/story.php?title=Expert_warns_climate_change_will_lead_to_barbarisation">Registration is free</a> and takes just a few seconds.</p>
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		<title>Green Quote of the Week: Kathleen Sebelius</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2008/03/26/green-quote-of-the-week-kathleen-sebelius/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kansas Governor Katherine Sebelius said this when she vetoed a bill last week that would have allowed the construction of two new coal fired power plants: Of all the duties and responsibilities entrusted to me as governor, none is greater &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2008/03/26/green-quote-of-the-week-kathleen-sebelius/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://green-blog.org/media/images/2008/03/kathleen-sebelius.jpg" align="right" alt="Green Quote of the Week: Kathleen Sebelius" />Kansas Governor Katherine Sebelius said this when she vetoed a bill last week that would have allowed the construction of two new coal fired power plants:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of all the duties and responsibilities entrusted to me as governor, none is greater than my obligation to protect the health and well-being of the people of Kansas.</p></blockquote>
<p>Stephanie Cole, a Sierra Club spokeswoman, said that this&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;sends a message that Kansas is willing to be part of the solution, rather than part of the problem.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Roderick L. Bremby, Secretary of the Kansas Department of Health and Environment (KDHE) added that he believes&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;it would be irresponsible to ignore emerging information about the contribution of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases to climate change and the potential harm to our environment and health if we do nothing.</p></blockquote>
<p>The coal plants would, according to Sunflower (the owners), emit 11 million tons of carbon dioxide a year.</p>
<p><strong>Learn more:</strong><br />
- <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/21/AR2008032102722.html?hpid=sec-business">Kansas Governor Vetoes Bill to Allow Coal-Fired Plants</a><br />
- <a href="http://www.earthjustice.org/news/press/007/kansas-rejects-massive-sunflower-coal-fired-power-plant-1.html">Kansas Rejects Massive Sunflower Coal-Fired Power Plant</a></p>
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		<title>Schwarzenegger’s State of the State Address</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2008/01/16/schwarzenegger%e2%80%99s-state-of-the-state-address/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a short summary of California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s State of the State Address, which he made in January 8, 2008. You can read the whole speech over at knbc.com. Arnold Schwarzenegger, in his speech, pushes for more dams &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2008/01/16/schwarzenegger%e2%80%99s-state-of-the-state-address/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/520785351_0200fd4cc8_m.jpg" align="right" alt="Schwarzenegger’s State of the State Address" />Here is a short summary of California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s State of the State Address, which he made in January 8, 2008. You can read the <a href="http://www.knbc.com/news/15007090/detail.html">whole speech over at knbc.com</a>. Arnold Schwarzenegger, in his speech, pushes for more dams to be built and repeating his promise to sue the Bush Administration for stopping California to get their &#8220;clean-car&#8221; standards to take effect.</p>
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<blockquote><p>Likewise, on infrastructure, I will continue to push for action. We have a water system built decades ago for 18 million people.</p>
<p>Today we have 37 million people. In 20 years, we will have 50 million people. We have to get going.</p>
<p>Already homes and businesses are facing mandatory cutbacks. Farms are unable to irrigate crops. Building permits are being denied.</p>
<p>And yet raging flood waters run wasted into the sea because they can’t be captured. We must expand water storage. We must build new water delivery systems. We must fix the Delta and restore its ecosystem.<br />
We will also continue to make California the world’s environmental leader.</p>
<p>We are leading on climate change, low carbon fuels, energy efficiency &#8211; and on clean, green technology. When it comes to cleaning our air, preserving our oceans, protecting our environment, California will continue to be the foremost advocate for change.</p>
<p>And if we have to sue the federal government to get out of our way, we will do so.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bill Magavern, senior Representative of <a href="http://www.sierraclub.org/">Sierra Club</a> California, gives his perspective and views of the speech over at <a href="http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2008/01/schwarzenegger_62.html">CaliforniaProgressReport.com</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>While we had hoped that Governor Schwarzenegger would use the State of the State to roll out important new programs regarding green chemistry and better fire planning, the speech was largely devoid of details.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Image credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/d_vdm/520785351/">D_vdm</a>. Image licensed under a<br />
Creative-Commons Attribution-Share Alike license.</em></p>
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