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		<title>Canada will withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just hours after returning from COP17 in South Africa, Peter Kent, Canada’s environment minister, announced that the country would use their legal right and become the first country to quit the Kyoto Protocol. Kent claimed that the Kyoto protocol “will &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2011/12/13/canada-will-withdraw-from-the-kyoto-protocol/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just hours after returning from <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2011/12/12/the-durban-climate-deal-saves-the-talks-but-not-the-climate/">COP17</a> in South Africa, Peter Kent, Canada’s environment minister, <a href="http://www.ec.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&#038;n=FFE36B6D-1&#038;news=6B04014B-54FC-4739-B22C-F9CD9A840800">announced</a> that the country would use their legal right and become the <a href="http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2011/12/2011121222251949941.html">first country to quit</a> the Kyoto Protocol.</p>
<p>Kent claimed that the Kyoto protocol “will not work” when China and USA is not participating and that the global climate change agreement doesn’t “represent a way forward for Canada&#8221;. </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;As we said from the outset, the Kyoto Protocol did not represent the path forward for Canada&#8221;, Kent said in a statement to the House of Commons. </p>
<p>&#8220;Before this week, the Kyoto Protocol covered less than 30% of global emissions. Now it covers less than 13% &#8212; and that number is only shrinking. The Kyoto Protocol does not cover the world&#8217;s two largest emitters &#8211; the United States and China &#8211; and therefore will not work.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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<p>The Kyoto protocol, Kent said, would force Canada to implement “radical and irresponsible action” that would result in “the loss of thousands of jobs.” Kent also expressed criticism against Canada’s obligation under the protocol to transfer about $14 billion to poorer countries to help them to mitigate and respond to the effects of climate change.</p>
<p>And so the conservative government in Canada ignores both the economical differences between the North and the South as well as <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2010/02/13/inequality-between-rich-and-poor-nations-helps-fuel-a-climate-of-mistrust-and-sabotages-efforts-to-secure-a-climate-deal/">the historical responsibility</a> Canada has when it comes to climate change. </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Harper government has imposed a death sentence on many of the world&#8217;s most vulnerable populations by pulling out of Kyoto,&#8221; <a href="http://www.greenpeace.org/canada/en/Blog/harper-government-kyoto-withdrawal-issues-dea/blog/38372/">said Greenpeace</a> climate and energy campaigner Mike Hudema.</p></blockquote>
<p>But why is Canada really withdrawing from the Kyoto protocol? The Canadian government <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/13/us-kyoto-withdrawal-idUSTRE7BB1X420111213">blames it on USA</a> for not being part of the global climate treaty, saying it stops Canada from competing economically on the world market. But others say that <a href="http://www.grist.org/list/2011-12-13-why-is-canada-withdrawing-from-kyoto-two-words-tar-sands">the real reason</a> is Canada’s climate killing tar sands. </p>
<blockquote><p>“One of the reasons that Canada is not meeting its goals is because it has opted not to hobble oil-sands production &#8212; in fact, the government has encouraged it. And although many sectors of its economy have drawn down emissions, the tar-sands industry has more than made up for those drops. So Canada was faced with a choice: money from tar sands or climate change. It&#8217;s choosing climate change.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Back in Europe, another conservative government led by PM David Cameron has secretly been helping Canada to push its <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/nov/27/canada-oil-sands-uk-backing">dirty and deadly tar sands</a> project on EU markets. Conservative governments and politicians around the world are busy trying to delay the implementation of climate policies and now even abandoning the world’s only global climate treaty. At the same time socialistic governments are trying to device the “radical” changes needed to confront the climate crisis. Such as the red and green coalition in Denmark which has set plans in motion to <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2011/12/05/denmark-to-end-their-reliance-on-fossil-fuels-aims-for-100-percent-renewable-energy-in-2050/">completely end their reliance on fossil fuels</a>.</p>
<p>So what does Canada&#8217;s withdrawal from the Kyoto protocol mean? Considering the fact that Canada has increased their greenhouse gas emissions with nearly 20% since 1990 they never really were a part of the Kyoto protocol anyway. So for the climate crisis it doesn’t do much difference. But future UN negotiations will certainly become even more polarized and the mistrust created will surely delay, or in worse case even sabotage, efforts to secure a global climate deal for 2020 and beyond. But one thing that is painfully clear now is that a legally binding climate deal <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/13/canada-withdrawal-kyoto-protocol">does not guarantee</a> countries won&#8217;t ignore or walk away from their commitments.</p>
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		<title>Inequality between rich and poor nations helps fuel a climate of mistrust and sabotages efforts to secure a climate deal</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 15th United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP15) in Copenhagen, which many have said was our last chance to take action against “the greatest threat the world has ever faced”, ended in a failure. For over 15 years delegates and &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2010/02/13/inequality-between-rich-and-poor-nations-helps-fuel-a-climate-of-mistrust-and-sabotages-efforts-to-secure-a-climate-deal/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 15th United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP15) in Copenhagen, which many have said was our last chance to take action against “<a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/01/president-of-the-maldives-please-dont-be-stupid/">the greatest threat the world has ever faced</a>”, ended in <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/18/copenhagen-deal">a failure</a>. </p>
<p>For over 15 years delegates and politicians from around the world have discussed, debated and negotiated the questions of dealing with manmade climate change in various COP (Conference of the Parties) summits. So why haven’t they made any real progress yet? </p>
<p>That is a big question that covers a whole range of topics and issues that I won’t go into. Instead I will try to focus on the actual politics and tactics used at the COP summits. I will try to see if uneven development and inequality plays any part in how the actual negotiations plays out, how the delegates attending perceive climate justice and fairness, and if all this combined somehow sabotages the efforts to secure a climate deal.</p>
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<p>At the major United Nations Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, in 1992 more than 100 world leaders met to address the question of global climate change. At the end of the conference 187 nations signed the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) treaty. Without any “tough details” the agreement said nations should “protect the climate system…on the basis of equity and in accordance with their common but differentiated responsibilities and respective capabilities.” World leaders managed to get a consensus and reach an agreement but they still had disagreements on what kind of responsibilities nations had under the UNFCCC treaty. The “common but differentiated” phrase seems to have resulted in various different interpretations between the “North” and the “South”. The poor developing nations were, compared to the North, very precise in their interpretation of the phrase and called for the rich developed nations to take the lead in the emission reductions. They also wanted the North to help developing nations in their environmental efforts by transferring large amounts of economic and technologic assistance from the North to the South. The North on the other hand interpreted the phrase a bit differently. According to the UNFCC treaty $625 billion was needed every year for a sustainable development to take place in the developing nations. Around 20% of the money would be paid by below-market loans to the South. But the developed nations never fulfilled their promise of economic and technologic assistance to the South. In the end they paid less than 20% of the $625 billion. </p>
<p>In 1995, three years after the Rio Earth Summit, the first COP conference took place in Berlin, Germany. Here the so called “Berlin Mandate” declared that the developed nations in the North should reduce their emissions first while the developing nations would join in later on. Two years later in 1997 at the COP3 conference in Kyoto, Japan, the US president Bill Clinton actually signed the famous Kyoto Protocol, which called for binding reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. But the protocol was never ratified by the USA because of the US senate which voted unanimously in favor for the Byrd-Hagel Resolution. Once passed the Byrd-Hagel Resolution successfully blocked any climate treaty that was, in their words, “unfair”. Because the Kyoto protocol did not require the developing nations to do any emissions cuts the US senate felt it was “unfair” and refused to ratify it. </p>
<p>And it is now, with the Kyoto protocol, that you can start to clearly see the different positions and opinions the North and the South, rich and poor, developed and developing nations have on what climate justice actually is. Developing nations didn’t want to accept any scheduled emission reduction targets for the future. Any mention by the North that the developing nations should in some way slow down their development and economic growth by limiting their greenhouse gas emissions was met with an “openly hostile negotiating environment” from the South. The Brazilian ambassador Luis Felipe Lampreia stated during the COP3 conference that: “We cannot accept limitations that interfere with our economic development.” And the lead negotiator from China said: “In the developed world only two people ride in a car, and yet you want us to give up riding on a bus”.</p>
<p>The developed nations are responsible for about 80% of the worlds CO2 emissions. One person in Bangladesh will during a whole year emit as much CO2 emissions as one average person living the UK will in only 11 days. A single power plant in Great Britain will produce more CO2 emissions, every year, than all 139 million people living in Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Malawi, Zambia and Mozambique combined. It is also clear that developing nations are much more vulnerable to the effects a changing climate brings such as droughts, rising tides, floods and tropical storms than rich and developed nations are. And nine Chinese and eighteen Indians release as much greenhouse gas emissions into our atmosphere as one average American does. The USA is alone responsible for over 20% of global greenhouse gas emissions, but only around 4% of the world’s total population lives in the USA. A whopping 136 developing nations are on the other hand together responsible for 24% of global emissions. </p>
<p>But the former US President George H. W. Bush once notoriously stated that “the American lifestyle is not open to negotiation”. His son, George W. Bush later dismissed the Kyoto protocol completely by claiming that the treaty “would cause serious harm to the US economy” and that it is “an unfair and ineffective means of addressing global climate change concerns”.</p>
<p>Even in light of these clearly uneven numbers the North’s perception of climate justice seems to be to disregard any kinds of historical responsibilities or economical differences, the very same issues that the South thinks are the basis of climate justice. And these rather different perceptions on climate justice between the rich and poor nations help fuel an deteriorating negotiating atmosphere. </p>
<p>When it comes to the negotiations during these summits, like the COP15 this past December, the income differences between developing and developed nations plays a big role in creating a hostile negotiating environment for the delegates. It is also one of the more direct examples on how inequality can dampen cooperation on climate change. Attending these yearly COP summits obviously costs money. Nations need to be able to pay for their delegate’s salaries and accommodations. Other costs involves scientists, lawyers, translators, economists and consultants that can help the nations delegation in the actual negotiations, with their draft proposals, legal argumentation as well as being able to offer counterarguments and proposals to the demands of other nations.</p>
<blockquote><p>“The reason why many poor small countries are hardly represented in negotiations that concern them directly, writes Robert Wade, is that they cannot afford the cost of hotels, offices, and salaries in places like Washington DC and Geneva, which must be paid not in PPP [purchasing power parity] dollars but in hard currency bought with their own currency at market exchange rates (quoted in J.T. &#038; Parks, 2006: 15).”</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately many of the less developed nations (LDCs) cannot afford all this and most of the time they will have to go without this much needed help. Just a little side note to show how just bad these things can get: At a seminar in the aftermaths of COP15, at the Lund University in Sweden, a CPS student from Bangladesh told us about how he had, at a visit to the Bella center (where the climate talks were being held), walked into the delegation from Bangladesh. And after a short chat with them he ended up helping the delegation with translations at the big UN summit.</p>
<p>The delegates also need to attend all the formal and informal meetings during the climate summit. And these can be many and scheduled to take place at the same time. If you have several delegates you can easily divide up the work and focus on certain issues, read every single document and draft texts. That’s why the more delegates you can send the better. Studies have shown that there is a great difference between the numbers of delegates developed and developing nations are sending to these COP summits. For example: To COP6, in the Netherlands, the USA sent 99 delegates and the European Commission sent 76 delegates. Many developing nations such as African and small island states were lucky if they could even afford to scramble together a delegation consisting of one to three delegates. Recent studies and experiences at COP10 in 2004 confirm and back this up. During COP6 the chairs decided to split up the negotiations into smaller groups, subgroups and even subsubgroups so that they could easier cover all the climate related issues in an easier manner. Sure, this move can in an equal and perfect world make the debates and meetings flow much smoother. But with the current inequality between developed and developing nations it can make things worse. As you can imagine this decision gave a huge advantage and “agenda-setting power” to the developed nations who had been able to send many more delegates to the COP summit than the poorer nations had. </p>
<p>Another problematic side effect of not being able to send enough people to the climate summits is that the developing nations delegates often gets “buried” in documents and papers. This of course leads to the delegation losing its strength and energy. In the last hours of the summit they could then be presented with a document or proposal to a treaty which is already done and beyond alteration and forced to accept or reject it in an unrealistic short period of time. The developed nations use this to get a tactical advantage of the developing nations. They can offer a document at the last hour and pressure everyone to sign it. If the developing countries don’t accept it they are <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pablo-erick-solon-romero-oroza/climate-headed-for-crash_b_383819.html">later labeled by the developing nations as the “bad guy”</a> and the ones responsible for wrecking the climate talks (Huffington Post, 2009). At COP6, for example, “commitments were imposed by muscular chairmanship, or gaveled through without reaction from negotiators exhausted to the point of sleep,” Ashton and Wang claim. But this approach does not always succeed as can be seen by the walkout by G77 delegates in 2003 at the Cancun trade negotiations, or from the failure of the COP6 summit where China and the G77 group felt marginalized by the developed nations. Or from the <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/15/the_climate_divide_dispute_between_rich">walkout by African nations</a> at the latest COP15 summit in Copenhagen.</p>
<p>The nasty behind-the-back tactics and behaviors used in the past by developing nations were also present at the latest COP. During the first week of the COP15 summit in Copenhagen a potential final agreement, called the “Danish text”, was leaked to <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/08/copenhagen-climate-summit-disarray-danish-text">the Guardian</a>. The draft text was apparently worked out by developed nations such as the UK, US and Denmark and planned to be adapted by nations during the final week of the summit. The draft agreement made the developing countries “furious” as it would give even more powers to the rich nations, weakening UN’s future role as well as abandon the Kyoto protocol. Many NGOs, commentators and political leaders have criticized these COP summits and the tactics being used as unfair and even undemocratic. At the end of COP15 the Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez for example <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvcP62Cjos">called the summit “undemocratic”</a>. Raman Mehta from Action Aid India said this in a statement, in light of the “Danish text”, that:</p>
<blockquote><p>“The global community trusted the Danish government to host a fair and transparent process but they have betrayed that trust. Most importantly, they are betraying those who are disproportionately impacted by climate change and whose voices are not being heard. This unfair behaviour strikes a blow to all efforts to achieve justice and equity in the climate change negotiations process (quoted from <a href="http://www.foei.org/en/what-we-do/un-climate-talks/global/2009/danish-government-slammed-for-bias-and-secrecy-in-role-as-president-of-un-climate-conference">Friends of the Earth</a>, 2009).”</p></blockquote>
<p>George Monbiot’s <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/18/copenhagen-negotiators-bicker-filibuster-biosphere">verdict on the COP15 summit</a> wasn’t much better. He called it “stupid” and labeled the organizers and attendees of the summit as incompetent:</p>
<blockquote><p>“This was the chaotic, disastrous denouement of a chaotic and disastrous summit. The event has been attended by historic levels of incompetence. Delegates arriving from the tropics spent 10 hours queueing in sub-zero temperatures without shelter, food or drink, let alone any explanation or announcement, before being turned away. Some people fainted from exposure; it&#8217;s surprising that no one died. The process of negotiation was just as obtuse: there was no evidence here of the innovative methods of dispute resolution developed recently by mediators and coaches, just the same old pig-headed wrestling.”</p></blockquote>
<p>One also need to keep in mind that local environmental problems such as preventing soil erosion, providing clean drinking water, treating sewage and slowing down the spread of deserts are for most developing nations a much more critical and pressing issue than the more global ones. For developed nations the more global environmental issues such as climate change, ozone depletion and habitat loss are higher up on their priority list. This means that the developing nations need to put more effort into pursuing the South that the global issues should be a higher priority for them.</p>
<p>At the same time many delegates and policy makers from the less developed nations fear that the nations in the core of the world system, which I explained earlier, might just use the climate and environmental concerns to cover up their real agenda: keeping the periphery nations underdeveloped. After being literally forced to accept trade-related, intellectual and property-rights laws and agreements that gives an advantage to the North many South policy makers and even academics hold this opinion of mistrust. And this is a reason to why there is such a big “climate of mistrust” at the COP negotiations. The North has almost constantly failed to keep their promises of financial aid, technological transfer, ignored many of the ecological problems in the South and used tactics to marginalize the South at negotiations. So it’s not really that hard to understand that any suggestions from the North that the South should limit their development, for the good of global environmental issues, are met with a dismissive response from the developing nations.</p>
<h2>Final Thoughts</h2>
<p>So the lack of power and the extreme poverty and underdevelopment among many of the developing nations leaves them vulnerable in negotiations with the North. It’s more expensive for developing nations to purchase environmental technology and knowledge as they have to be paid with real cash and not credits or loans from the North. This makes it hard for them to perform any kinds of meaningful emission reductions or take part in the COP summits on equal terms.  </p>
<p>The wealthy developed nations believe that climate justice is when an agreement involves all parties, both developed and developing nations. Because, they argue, the non-Annex I nations will in a near future increase their emissions with so much that they must be included in a climate treaty. The poorer developing nations on the other hand perceive this in another manner. The climate crisis is a result from the rich North’s excessive consumption. And so they argue they also have the right, just like the North, to build and develop their economy using cheap fossil fuels.</p>
<p>The ozone layer crisis during the 1980’s is a good example of how the world can come together to combat global environmental issues. The negotiations back then was just as hard and complex as the climate talks are today. During the negotiations a Chinese delegate said that: “The call for modernization is so irresistible that China will continue to produce these ozone depleting chemicals,” unless, of course they and other developing nations received financial compensation for their efforts. India was equally tough in their negotiations and their environment minister said in a statement that: “We didn’t destroy the layer. You did. I’m saying that you [the West] have the capability and the money to restore what you have destroyed” (Do you recognize the style of the statements back then to the ones in today’s climate debate?). In the end the North agreed to give financial aid to the developing nations so that they could afford to take proper actions and protect the ozone layer.</p>
<p>But the current climate change negotiations are taking place in an even tougher “climate of mistrust” between the rich and poor. This mistrust is based on decades of Western promises not kept in global environmental and economic matters. To get rid of this suspicion and mistrust that is sabotaging efforts to secure a climate deal the North needs to understand their historical responsibility in this matter. As well as taking social and economic issues into account when negotiating about climate targets. The North could do this by offering a new and fairer global environmental and development treaty that clearly shows their commitments in this issue. </p>
<blockquote><p>“They could do this by providing greater “environmental space” to late developers, supplying meaningful sums of environmental assistance, funding aid for adaption and dealing with local environmental issues as well as global issues like climate change, and by identifying and investing in win-win technologies and sectors that both address local environmental issues and reduce greenhouse gas emissions (quoted in J.T. &#038; Parks, 2006: 217).”</p></blockquote>
<p>Basically the North needs to stop treating the weaker nations in the South as “second-class citizens” and work on rebuilding the South’s trust. Until they do we won’t get a fair, ambitious and binding climate deal (Or a planet with a habitable biosphere!).</p>
<h2>References</h2>
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<li>Roberts, J.T. &#038; Parks, B.C. (2006). “A Climate of Injustice: Global Inequality, North-South Politics, and Climate Policy”</li>
<li>Hornborg, A., J.R. McNeill &#038; J. Martinez-Alier, red. (2007).”Rethinking Environmental History: World-System History and Global Environmental Change”</li>
<li>Age of Stupid, “UK Priemier: <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/3661849">Message from the President of the Maldives</a>” (2009)</li>
<li>The Guardian, “<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/18/copenhagen-deal">Low targets, goals dropped: Copenhagen ends in failure</a>” (2009)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.un.org/esa/earthsummit/">United Nations Earth Summit+5</a></li>
<li>The Huffington Post, Pablo Erick Solón Romero Oroza, “<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pablo-erick-solon-romero-oroza/climate-headed-for-crash_b_383819.html">Climate Headed for Crash Landing</a>” (2009)</li>
<li>Goodman, Amy, “<a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/15/the_climate_divide_dispute_between_rich">The Climate Divide: Dispute Between Rich and Poor Nations Widens at UN Copenhagen Summit</a>” (2009)</li>
<li>Monbiot, George, ”<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/18/copenhagen-negotiators-bicker-filibuster-biosphere">Copenhagen negotiators bicker and filibuster while the biosphere burns</a>” (2009)</li>
<li>Democracy Now, ”<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvcP62Cjos">Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on How to Tackle Climate Change</a>” (2009)</li>
<li>The Guardian, ”<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/08/copenhagen-climate-summit-disarray-danish-text">Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after &#8216;Danish text&#8217; leak</a>” (2009)</li>
<li>Friends of the Earth International, ”<a href="http://www.foei.org/en/what-we-do/un-climate-talks/global/2009/danish-government-slammed-for-bias-and-secrecy-in-role-as-president-of-un-climate-conference">danish government slammed for bias and secrecy in role as president of un climate conference</a>” (2009)</li>
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		<description><![CDATA[As evident from the failed G8 meeting at L’Aquila, Italy, the worst greenhouse gas polluters of the First World support cap-and –trade emissions trading scheme (ETS) approaches to reducing greenhouse gas (GHG) pollution despite contrary advice from top climate scientists &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/07/15/oz-environmentalist-professor-tim-flannery-supports-disastrous-australian-carbon-trading-ets/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.green-blog.org/media/images/uploads/2009/07/Tim_Flannery.jpg" alt="Tim_Flannery" title="Tim_Flannery" width="180" height="285" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1738" />As evident from the failed G8 meeting at L’Aquila, Italy, the worst greenhouse gas polluters of the First World support cap-and –trade emissions trading scheme (ETS) approaches to reducing greenhouse gas (GHG) pollution despite contrary advice from top climate scientists and climate economists. In short, a Carbon Tax is the best way and Carbon Trading is flawed, will not work, is inequitable and will lead to a carbon pricing “bubble” and another market meltdown. Further, top climate scientists say that we must be urgently REDUCING GHG pollution rather than INCREASING it (see “<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/300orgsite/300-org---return-atmosphere-co2-to-300-ppm">300.org &#8211; return atmosphere CO2 to 300 ppm</a>”).</p>
<p>Nevertheless, environmentalists and environmentalist groups are being seduced into supporting the Carbon Trading ETS approach e.g. that of Obama that is now before the US Senate and the disastrous, proposed, pro-coal Australian ETS . The weak argument they offer is that “something is better than nothing”.</p>
<p>The pro-coal, pro-war Rudd Labor Government of Australia was elected in November 2007 with promises to the electorate that it would stop Australia’s involvement in Occupied Iraq (18 months since the election,  two thirds of Australian troops are still there and there has a big boost to Australian forces in Occupied Afghanistan) and that it would take strong action on man-made climate change (but its post-election actions  have been largely confined to rhetoric and propaganda while Australia’s world-leading per capita Domestic and Exported greenhouse gas pollution continues unabated).</p>
<p>The Rudd Labor Government did sign up Australia to the Kyoto Protocol in 2007 (a decade late) but balanced this by helping the US sabotage the Bali Climate Conference by refusing to agree to definite targets. As a ploy to avoid having to do anything concrete to decrease Australia’s world-leading Domestic and Exported greenhouse gas pollution (54 tonnes per person per year as compared to a world average per capita GHG pollution of 6.7 tonnes per person per year), the Australian Government appointed an economist Professor Ross Garnaut to research climate change for about a year and then proceeded to propose a softened version of Professor Garnaut’s final recommendations.</p>
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<p>The Australian Government cap-and-trade Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) proposal was called the “Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme” (CPRS) but the reality as estimated from US Energy Information Administration data is that the Australia ETS will INCREASE Australian Domestic and Exported GHG pollution by about 80% above the 2000 value by 2050 (see “<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/australia-s-5-off-2000-ghg-pollution-by-2020-endangers-australia-humanity-and-biosphere">Australia’s “5% off 2000 GHG pollution by 2020” endangers Australia, Humanity and the Biosphere</a>”) whereas top climate scientists are demanding that atmospheric GHG needs to be urgently REDUCED (see “<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/carbon-tax-needed-not-cap-and-trade-emission-trading-scheme-ets">Experts: Carbon Tax needed and NOT Cap-and-Trade Emission Trading Scheme (ETS)</a>”).</p>
<p>Further, top climate scientists and climate economists are increasingly blunt in their assessments that a straightforward Carbon Tax is the way to go and that the cap-and-trade Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) approach in general is highly flawed; will reward major polluters;  has not and most likely will not deliver timely reduction in GHG pollution; and will lead to a destructive market manipulation “bubble” that will make the recent market meltdown look like a picnic (see “<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/carbon-tax-needed-not-cap-and-trade-emission-trading-scheme-ets">Experts: Carbon Tax needed and NOT Cap-and-Trade Emission Trading Scheme (ETS)</a>”).</p>
<div class="quote1">Overall  a very  poor performance by Professor Tim Flannery who has clearly FAILED the “examination” as well as the environment.</div>
<p>The cap-and trade ETS of the pro-coal Australian Government is a dishonest scam that ignores  top scientific and economic advice  in proposing a rigged auction of GHG pollution licences in which only major polluters can participate (an auction that would be illegal in other contexts). Even worse, the receipts from the rigged auction are largely returned to the major polluters who can also keep polluting cheaply by purchasing very cheap carbon pollution offsets offshore from massively deforesting countries such as Malaysia, Indonesia and Papua New Guinea.</p>
<p>Politically, the Australian ETS has been a great success for spin-driven, pro-coal, pro-war, pro-US Rudd Labor because it has succeeded in fooling the public into believing that it is actually doing something against climate change – whereas the reverse is true i.e. it is doing nothing concrete to reduce GHG pollution and indeed is doing the reverse by permitting massive expansion of coal burning, gas burning and coal and LNG exports while damaging Australia’s  remaining renewables industry.</p>
<p>While the Greens oppose the ETS as a scam and the conservative Liberal a party-National Party Coalition oppose the ETS because it is flawed and/or may harm particular business interests, an ignorant and media-brainwashed Australian electorate continues to put its faith in an ignorant, dishonest, and dangerously incompetent  pro-coal Australian Labor Government.</p>
<p>A recent estimate was that about 25% of Australians opposed the Carbon Trading ETS,   with half opposing because it won’t work and half opposing because they are climate sceptics or are otherwise pro-coal and think it may work.</p>
<p>The great political success of Rudd Labor has been to also split the environmentalist movement. While the over 140 Climate Action Groups who met at the Canberra Climate Action Summit in January 2009 oppose the Government’s ETS and want REDUCTION of atmospheric CO2 from the current 390 ppm to 300 ppm, other environmentalists have been persuaded to come out in support of the highly flawed Government ETS that will commit Australia to INCREASING its world-leading GHG pollution.</p>
<p>The pro-ETS environmental groups include the Australian Conservation Foundation (ACF), the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and the Climate Institute have now, sadly, been joined by leading Australian environmentalist Professor Tim Flannery. The essential argument appears to be “something is better than nothing” or as stated by Professor Flannery “<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2008/s2611906.htm">I personally think they [the Greens] should vote for the CPRS and get it through. Because a first step is better than nothing.</a>”</p>
<p>Below is a critique of an interview by ABC Lateline presenter Tony Jones with well-known Australian environmentalist Professor Tim Flannery (see <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2008/s2611906.htm">ABC TV Lateline 29 June 2009</a>). I have treated this as a kind of “student’s oral examination” and have inserted below correcting comments with appropriate references as required in bold in square brackets. Flannery has failed the Examination in key technical areas (it is no excuse that he was originally <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Flannery">a Humanities Bachelor of Arts graduate</a> from Melbourne’s Humanities-eminent La Trobe University before embarking on an eminent scientific career) and has also failed the Environment by supporting the pro-coal Australian Government’s highly flawed, cap-and-trade emissions trading scheme (ETS) that is misleadingly and paradoxically called the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme (CPRS).</p>
<p>In short, the Australian CPRS (that Professor Flannery now supports) involves rigged auctions of greenhouse gas (GHG) pollution licences for major GHG polluters with the receipts being largely returned to the major GHG polluters. It is estimated that this CPRS policy means that Australia, one of the World’s worst per capita GHG polluters, will INCREASE its Domestic and Exported GHG pollution to 80% above the 2000 level by 2050 (see “<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/australia-s-5-off-2000-ghg-pollution-by-2020-endangers-australia-humanity-and-biosphere">Australia’s “5% off 2000 GHG pollution by 2020” endangers Australia, Humanity and the Biosphere</a>”).</p>
<p><strong>Parts of the transcript of the ABC  Lateline interview with Professor Flannery are given below  [my comments are in  bold in square brackets].</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>QUOTE: “Tim Flannery, adjunct professor for  Environmental and Life Sciences at Macquarie University and chairman of the Copenhagen  Climate Council joins Lateline to discuss the latest  summit.</p>
<p>TONY JONES, PRESENTER: Joining us now in the studio is  Professor Tim Flannery, well-known environmental expert, a former Australian of  the Year and also chairman of the Copenhagen Climate Council.</p>
<p>Thanks for  being here, Tim Flannery.</p>
<p>TIM FLANNERY, CHAIRMAN, COPENHAGEN CLIMATE  COUNCIL: It&#8217;s a pleasure, Tony.</p>
<p>TONY JONES: Let&#8217;s start with the US  energy bill, and how much does this new bill Obama has pushed through his Lower  House at the very least, how much has it changed the game globally on climate  change?</p>
<p>TIM FLANNERY: Well, look, it&#8217;s a very significant development.  You know, that bill seeks to reduce emissions [<strong>annual i.e.</strong> <strong>per annum?</strong>] beyond a 2005 baseline by about  17 per cent [<strong>by when?</strong>]. And what  that means is that for the first time ever, really, US emissions of greenhouse  gases will peak about five years from now, and that&#8217;s a fantastic achievement if  we can do that and then have a slow reduction. Now, of course, we&#8217;d all like it  to be more ambitious, but you&#8217;ve got to live with what&#8217;s actually achievable in  a place like the US.</p>
<p>… [<strong>discussion about  the US Obama Administration  Waxman-Markey energy, climate change and Carbon Trading ETS bill that is now  before the US Senate</strong>]  …</p>
<p>TONY JONES: Well, no response yet from  China or India on this [proposed US  carbon-related tariffs] and I suspect partly because it seems to have slipped  under the bar. It&#8217;s now only being reported in fact in the &#8216;New York Times&#8217; and  the &#8216;Washington Post&#8217;. So, it happened in the middle of the night. A lot of  people didn&#8217;t notice for the whole weekend and now they &#8230;</p>
<p>TIM FLANNERY:  Including me.</p>
<p>TONY JONES: Well, now they&#8217;ve noticed. And so what response  do you expect there will be from China and India? Because  it does look like a threat: get on board or we&#8217;ll put tariffs on your goods.</p>
<p>TIM FLANNERY: It does. I think it&#8217;s gonna be much, much tougher for  India than  China, this sorta stuff. And &#8211; which  is a pity, because with the Congress win in the last election in India there&#8217;s  been a softening of the Indian position, and with the right signals, I think  India may come on board. This may make it more difficult for India to deal with  … [<strong>In actuality,</strong> <strong>India’s annual per capita GHG pollution of 2.2 tonnes  CO2-e per person per year is about one third of the world average and 25 times  lower than Australia’s annual per capita Domestic and Exported GHG pollution of  54; Indian PM Manmohan Singh has actually PLEDGED that India’s annual per capita  will never exceed the average for Developed countries, this already being much  lower than the World average and vastly lower than that of the US, Europe and  Australia: </strong><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/environment/global-warming/dont-leave-sacrifices-to-us-says-scientist-20090709-desd.html">http://smh.com.au/environment/.../us-says-scientist-20090709-desd.html</a> ].</p>
<p>China&#8217;s different.  China&#8217;s been playing tough all along.  They&#8217;ve been saying, you know, &#8220;Unless you guys reduce by between 25 and 40 per  cent by 2020, we&#8217;re not gonna be part of the deal.&#8221; Now that&#8217;s probably a  negotiating position; we&#8217;re yet to see. But this again will make it somewhat  harder, but I don&#8217;t think it makes it impossible for China.</p>
<p>[<strong>Flannery ignores the  reality that Australia is the world’s biggest coal  exporter and a world leading greenhouse gas (GHG) polluter. Thus Australia’s  domestic and exported “annual per capita GHG pollution” is 54 tonnes  CO<sub>2</sub>-equivalent per person per year –  2 times that of the US, 10  times that of China, 25 times that of India and 60 times that of Bangladesh; for details and documentation see </strong><strong>“<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/australia-s-5-off-2000-ghg-pollution-by-2020-endangers-australia-humanity-and-biosphere">Australia’s “5% off 2000 GHG pollution by 2020”  endangers Australia, Humanity and the Biosphere</a>”</strong>].</p>
<p>TIM FLANNERY: Well, look, offsets will be allowed &#8211;  industrial offsets, right? So, if you produce a given amount of pollution, you  can offset some of it by sequestering carbon in soils on farmland, which can be  done through better agricultural practices and so forth, through charcoal  making, another interesting technology, through reforestation, better rangelands  management, better management of cattle and so forth. So there&#8217;s a number of  different ways of this occurring. It&#8217;s yet to be seen specifically how the  offsets will be made, but it definitely represents a real advantage to rural  America and a very genuine set of  offsets too. This actually helps with the climate problem. We know that this is  such an overwhelmingly large problem that about half of the avoided emissions  that we&#8217;ve gotta make over the next decade will come from sequestration in  agriculture and forests.</p>
<p>TONY JONES: It is extraordinary when you think  about that level of potential sequestration, but how does it actually work? I  mean, biochar, for example, will &#8211; which Malcolm Turnbull has talked about quite  a bit; you haven&#8217;t heard much from the Government on this issue. Will biochar be  available to US farmers to offset carbon emissions?</p>
<p>TIM FLANNERY: Look,  the specific technologies, I think, are yet to be debated, but I would be  surprised if biochar weren&#8217;t included in there. I mean, the precise nature of  the offsets, I should say, are still being worked out, but I&#8217;m sure that  charcoal is one of the obvious ones. And just to let you know how that works,  you know, just imagine a coal-fired power plant burns a ton of coal, you get 3.7  tonnes of carbon dioxide because the little carbon atoms join with bigger oxygen  atoms to make them a CO2 molecule [<strong>you  actually get much LESS because not all coal is carbon and not all the carbon, C,  gets burned or fully oxidized to CO2</strong>]. That floats around in the air,  a plant gets hold of it, strips the oxygen off again [<strong>NO, just some of the oxygen O is stripped  off</strong>] and just keeps the carbon in its own tissue, so you&#8217;ve got that  3.7 going back to a single ton again &#8217;cause there&#8217;s carbon in the plant  structure itself [<strong>NOT SO; the photosynthesis  equation is actually : CO2 + H2O -&gt; CH2O + O2 i.e. carbohydrate (CH2O)n is  generated, not carbon, C</strong>]. You then combust that, make charcoal out  of it and then store the charcoal, which is almost pure carbon, in the  soil.</p>
<p>TONY JONES: So, how does this work for a farmer? I mean, you&#8217;re  talking about part of their crop is used obviously for export; the rest of it,  the waste then becomes turned into charcoal and therefore somehow holds the  carbon that&#8217;s in that waste. Is that what you&#8217;re talking about?</p>
<p>TIM  FLANNERY: That&#8217;s absolutely right. If you look at a tree, it&#8217;s basically just  congealed carbon [<strong>NO,  it is actually  carbohydrate, mainly cellulose,</strong> <strong>(CH2O)n]</strong>, you know, that&#8217;s what it is,  effectively. And there&#8217;s people overseas developing some very ingenious ways of  permanently capturing that carbon as charcoal. One of the best plans I&#8217;ve seen  is out of Sweden where an agronomist is  developing a thing called a &#8220;charvestor&#8221;. And a charvestor would simply go along  and harvest a crop, but also harvest a crop waste. It&#8217;ll put the crop waste into  a charcoal making machine and it&#8217;ll bin the synthetic gas you get out of that  machine, which is a valuable protect, and the crude oil substitute&#8217;ll go into  another bin, and the charcoal&#8217;ll get spat out the back and be put back into the  field and give you a better crop yield next year.</p>
<p>TONY JONES: But how do  you do it? I mean, it seems to require some kind of furnace that burns without  oxygen or without using very much oxygen. How does that work?</p>
<p>TIM  FLANNERY: Well, charcoal making&#8217;s a really ancient technology. And all you do is  basically heat up any biomass &#8211; wood or crop mass or whatever &#8211; in the absence  of oxygen and that basically cooks it. And so you get a gas given off which you  can capture, you get a gooey, oil-like substance given off, and that&#8217;s a crude  oil substitute, and at the bottom of the machine is all of the charcoal which is  the carbon-dense part, it&#8217;s almost all the carbon in the plant, which is then in  a mineralised form so it won&#8217;t rot away <strong>[NO,  it is simply in the form of carbon, C, which will not “rot away and escape back  into the air” unless it catches fire and burns: C + O2 -&gt; CO2</strong>],  and that&#8217;s the key to it. Because crop waste, normally, if it&#8217;s just put back on  a field, tends to rot away and escape back to the air as carbon dioxide  [<strong>NO, much ends up as</strong> <strong>methane, CH4, depending upon the conditions and  organisms involved, noting that CH4 has 21 times the greenhouse gas efficacy of  CO2 on a 100 year time scale</strong>], whereas if it&#8217;s turned into charcoal  it&#8217;ll stay in that field for many thousands of years. So it&#8217;s locked away  permanently out of the system.</p>
<p>….</p>
<p>TONY JONES: You&#8217;ve been watching very closely the  progress towards the negotiations, or the progress of the negotiations towards  December where there&#8217;s hope for an agreement. Is there any chance at all that  what many scientists want will happen, that is, an agreement to keep temperature  rises globally to under two degrees Celsius?</p>
<p>TIM FLANNERY: Tony, we&#8217;ve  gotta see this as a step in a process, right? And we&#8217;re starting very late.  There is enough greenhouse gases in the atmosphere to push us perilously close  to that two degrees of warming over time, right? We can&#8217;t see how this is gonna  play out in the longer term because things like charcoal making may pull us back  from the brink a bit faster than we previously thought. But I see this Copenhagen meeting as a  very important step in the process. It may not of itself limit us &#8211; limit  greenhouse gas emissions to the point where we&#8217;ll be under two degrees, but it  is a very important step [<strong>not good enough;  Europe has set a limit of 2 degrees C warming over 1900 temperature; 90% of  respondents from participants at the March 2009 Copenhagen Climate Change Conference thought that we would exceed 2 degrees C:</strong> <a title="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/apr/14/global-warming-target-2c" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/apr/14/global-warming-target-2c">http://guardian.co.uk/environment/.../global-warming-target-2c</a> ]. We&#8217;ve gotta get emissions to peak first before we can start that reduction  [<strong>what reduction? We can start reducing net  CO2 and net GHG pollution right now</strong>].</p>
<p>….<br />
TONY JONES: It&#8217;s not only industry, it&#8217;s certain key  politicians. Senator Steve Fielding had a very important potential vote in the  Senate, is now being described by the &#8216;Wall Street Journal&#8217; as something like a  prophet, which is quite unusual to see, and beyond that, there&#8217;s a view that  Australia is emerging as a sort of  epicentre of the new scientific scepticism.</p>
<p>TIM FLANNERY:  Australia&#8217;s climate dinosaurs are a  lot bigger and uglier than the climate dinosaurs elsewhere, that&#8217;s for sure. And  it is depressing, because it&#8217;s just so counter-productive. And, you know, the  amount of time industry will waste disputing the science and not getting on with  the job of adjusting to the future and a new energy economy in this country is  just dismaying.</p>
<p>TONY JONES: What about the other side of the coin &#8211; the  Greens in Australia? You referred earlier to  the pragmatism of the American vote. The Greens, of course, have chosen not to  be pragmatic at all, to vote against the carbon pollution reduction scheme  [<strong>CPRS; Australia’s proposed cap-and-trade  emission trading scheme (ETS)</strong>], and potentially vote it down,  although there are other votes obviously. Do you admire their role, or should  they have been, as the American Congressmen were, more pragmatic?</p>
<p>TIM  FLANNERY: I think The Greens have been fairly pragmatic throughout the year. I  personally think they should vote for the CPRS and get it through. Because a  first step is better than nothing. We need to start this journey, you know? And,  yes, it&#8217;s not entirely adequate for the task, it won&#8217;t limit emissions as much  as we want, but we&#8217;ve gotta start somewhere. Unless we take the first step,  we&#8217;re not going anywhere [<strong>NO; leading  scientists and economists argue strongly for a Carbon Tax rather than  market-manipulatable Carbon Trading and are saying that cap-and-trade emissions  trading schemes (ETSs) are flawed, risky and unlikely to deliver the requisite  decrease in GHG pollution; see “<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/carbon-tax-needed-not-cap-and-trade-emission-trading-scheme-ets">Experts: Carbon Tax needed and NOT Cap-and-Trade Emission trading Scheme (ETS)</a>”</strong>] .</p>
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<h3><strong>Overall  a very  poor  performance by Professor Tim Flannery who has clearly FAILED the “examination”  as well as the environment</strong>.</h3>
<h3><strong>Contrast  Professor Flannery’s weak pro-ETS  argument that “a first step is better than  nothing” with the conclusions of the following top climate scientists and  climate economists about Emission Trading Schemes (for references and expanded  quotes see “<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/carbon-tax-needed-not-cap-and-trade-emission-trading-scheme-ets">Experts: Carbon Tax needed and NOT Cap-and-Trade Emission Trading  Scheme (ETS)</a>”</strong>).</h3>
<p><strong>Professor James Hansen </strong>(top US  climate scientist; Columbia University; Head, NASA GISS): “The worst  thing about cap-and-trade [ETS], from a climate standpoint, is that it will  surely be inadequate to achieve the sharp reduction of emissions that is needed. Thus cap-and-trade would practically guarantee disastrous climate change for our  children and grandchildren”.</p>
<p><strong>Professor William Nordhaus</strong> (Sterling Professor of Economics, Yale University,  USA): “To bet the world’s climate system and global environment on an untested  [ETS] approach with such clear structural flaws would appear a reckless gamble  …The international community should move quickly to replace the current  cap-and-trade structure with one in which the central economic mechanism is a  tax on greenhouse-gas emissions”.</p>
<p><strong>Professor Jacqueline McGlade</strong> (Director of the European Environment Agency,  Copenhagen,  marine biologist and Professor of Environmental Informatics in the Department of  Mathematics at University College London, UK): &#8220;His [Nordhaus’] idea is very  sensible. We need to move the burden of taxation away from labour to resources —  and tax not just on carbon but other resources such as water to tackle the far  wider environmental and resource problems we face</p>
<p><strong>Professor Daniel M. Kammen</strong> (Energy and Resources Group and Goldman School of  Public Policy, University of  California, Berkeley):  “a price on  greenhouse gas emissions is essential”.</p>
<p><strong>Professor Barry Brook </strong>(Sir Hubert Wilkins Chair of Climate Change, University of  Adelaide, Adelaide, South Australia, Australia): “A cap and trade mechanism is  by its nature, an all consuming policy instrument that extinguishes the  effectiveness of voluntary actions, harming rather than enhancing the evolution  of a low carbon economy &#8230;  the cap and trade mechanism is the wrong approach  and we should instead focus on a carbon tax”.</p>
<p><strong>Dr Robert J. Shapiro</strong> (Chair, U.S. Climate Task Force and finance  consultancy firm Sonecon; undersecretary of commerce for economic affairs in the  Clinton Administration):<strong> </strong>”Despite  its advocates’ good intentions, cap-and-trade could put America  at risk of another meltdown — one originally created and financed by the  government itself. None of these painful and difficult issues arise with a  carbon tax-shift. Rather, it could enable us to effectively do our part in  addressing climate change, while protecting or even enhancing our economic  prospects. That’s a deal Congress cannot afford to pass up”.</p>
<p><strong>Stephen Lendman</strong> (leading liberal US analyst and commentator):  “Contributing $4,452,585 to Democrats in 2008 (around $1 million to Obama) was  mere pocket change for what it can reap from scams like cap and trade disguised  as an environmental plan. The scheme [the Obama ETS and energy bill] was  devised. GS [Goldman Sachs] helped write it. The House passed it and sent it to  the Senate. Unless stopped, it will transfer more of our wealth to corporate  polluters and Wall Street on top of all they&#8217;ve stolen so far from derivatives  fraud and the imploded housing and other bubbles”.</p>
<p><strong>Kenneth Davidson</strong> (respected economics columnist for “The Age” newspaper, Melbourne; co-editor of  “Dissent”):”There isn&#8217;t one cap-and-trade scheme in the world that has resulted  in a reduction in carbon emissions. Instead, such schemes have made money for  the biggest polluters and created a new branch of the derivatives industry that  creates new wealth opportunities for brokers and financiers. Rudd&#8217;s cap and  trade scheme benefits the worst polluters. But the Australian scheme is special.  It has been rorted at the planning stage … The carbon scheme is not simply weak.  It is fraudulent”.</p>
<p><strong>Professor Joseph Stiglitz </strong>(Columbia University; 2001 Economics Nobel Laureate; former  Senior Vice President and Chief Economist of the World Bank), December 2007:  “The only principle that has some ethical basis is equal emission rights per  capita (with some adjustments &#8211; for instance, the US has already used up its  share of the global atmosphere, so it should have fewer emission allowances).  But adopting this principle would entail such huge payments from developed  countries to developing countries, that, regrettably, the former are unlikely to  accept it &#8230; Of course, polluting industries like the cap-and-trade system.  While it provides them an incentive not to pollute, emission allowances offset  much of what they would have to pay under a [Carbon] tax system”.</p>
<p><em>Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/7967777@N02">Mark Coulson</a>, 5th World Conference of Science Journalists</em></p>
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		<title>Top experts: Carbon Tax needed NOT Cap-and-Trade Emission Trading Scheme (ETS)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A number of eminent scientists, economists and writers variously argue strongly FOR a global Carbon Tax that will directly put a price on greenhouse gas (GHG) pollution and enable urgently required rapid transformation to a non-carbon economy. They variously argue &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/07/05/top-experts-carbon-tax-needed-not-cap-and-trade-emission-trading-scheme-ets/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of eminent scientists, economists and writers variously argue strongly FOR a global Carbon Tax that will directly put a price on greenhouse gas (GHG) pollution and enable urgently required rapid transformation to a non-carbon economy.</p>
<p>They variously argue AGAINST carbon pricing based on a Kyoto Protocol-based Cap-and Trade Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) of which the pro-coal Australian Government&#8217;s carbon pollution-increasing and misleadingly named <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/australia-s-5-off-2000-ghg-pollution-by-2020-endangers-australia-humanity-and-biosphere">Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme</a> (CPRS) is  a spectacularly flawed, irresponsible, anti-social, anti-humanity, anti-environment, anti-Planet and disastrous example.</p>
<p>Thus the pro-coal Australian ETS involves a rigged auction involving only major polluters and then extraordinarily hands most of the receipts back to the major polluters. The proposed Australian ETS  is estimated to mean an increase in Australian domestic and exported greenhouse gas (GHG) pollution by 80% on 2000 levels by 2050 (see <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/letters/frivolous-debate-ignores-vital-issues-20090623-cva4.html">my letter in the leading Australian newspaper The Age</a>, 14 June, 2009).</p>
<p>Well, we hear plenty from ignorant and dishonest politicians about their pet Cap-and-Trade Emission Trading Scheme (ETS). Indeed such a scheme is a key part of the <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/07/01/us-house-passes-energy-and-climate-bill-environmentalists-says-its-too-weak/">Obama Administration Waxman-Markey energy, climate and cap-and-trade Bill</a> that has just passed the US House of Representatives and now faces the US Senate.</p>
<p>But what do top climate scientists and climate economists say? Below are some key comments made by experts who press for a direct, global Carbon Tax rather than failed, worse than ineffective, dishonest, risky and market manipulatable Carbon Trading (for detailed, extensive and updated documentation of such views see the website of the <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/carbon-tax-needed-not-cap-and-trade-emission-trading-scheme-ets">Melbourne-based Yarra Valley Climate Action Group</a>). </p>
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<p><strong>Professor James Hansen</strong> (top US climate scientist; Head, NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies; adjunct professor, Columbia; University, New York, USA), February 2009:<br />
<blockquote>“The most honest effective way to achieve a carbon price capable of driving our economy and our society to the clean world of the future is “Carbon Tax with 100% Dividend” … The worst thing about cap-and-trade [ETS], from a climate standpoint, is that it will surely be inadequate to achieve the sharp reduction of emissions that is needed. Thus cap-and-trade would practically guarantee disastrous climate change for our children and grandchildren.” [1]. </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Jonathan Leake</strong> (science and environment editor of the UK Sunday Times), March 2009:<br />
<blockquote>“Britain’s faith in carbon trading as a way of reducing greenhouse gases could be dangerously misplaced, according to an independent academic working with the Department of Energy and Climate Change. Dr Chris Hope of the University of Cambridge’s Judge Business School … [has] a far wider conclusion: the current European Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) is deeply flawed and should be replaced – or at least augmented – with a green tax … For the ETS to work, the price has to be set at a level that makes it worthwhile for consumers to cut their energy use. According to Hope’s research, the minimum price needed is about £85 per tonne [A$173] , rising at roughly 2 to 3 per cent a year … Prices now stand at roughly £9.50 [A$19] per tonne of CO2  – less than 12 per cent of what Hope’s calculations show is needed.… He believes a market-based trading system such as the ETS is very unlikely to generate consistent high prices, and this instability could undermine the whole point of the scheme”. [2]. </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Professor William Nordhaus</strong> (Sterling Professor of Economics, Yale University, USA), March 2009:<br />
<blockquote>“The international community is making huge wager on the Kyoto model. The wager is that the cap-and-trade structure contained in the model will do the job of slowing global warming. The new United States Administration advocated that the U.S. adopt this system as its contribution top solving the global problem, and the primary legislation in the U.S. Congress is firmly a cap-and-trade proposal. But, as I have suggested above, the cap-and-trade approach is a poor choice of mechanism&#8230; You need only to look today at the wreckage of the current financial system to see the latest example of the effects of failed regulatory and risk-management design. So, if the Kyoto model turns out to be another failed model, it has lots of company. But it would be better to recognize and change it now, rather than in one or two more decades of ineffective and inefficient efforts to slow emissions. The international community should move quickly to replace the current cap-and-trade structure with one in which the central economic mechanism is a tax on greenhouse-gas emissions.” [3]. </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Professor Jacqueline McGlade</strong> (Director of the European Environment Agency, Copenhagen, marine biologist and Professor of Environmental Informatics in the Department of Mathematics at University College London, UK), March 2009:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;His [Nordhaus’] idea is very sensible. We need to move the burden of taxation away from labour to resources — and tax not just on carbon but other resources such as water to tackle the far wider environmental and resource problems we face.&#8221; [4]. </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Professor Daniel M. Kammen</strong>, (Energy and Resources Group and Goldman School of Public Policy, University of California, Berkeley), March 2009:<br />
<blockquote> “Evolving the filed of climate solutions science: the economics of clean and sustainable energy must be supported for individuals and companies to achieve a shared vision; a price on greenhouse gas emissions is essential (but alone it is not sufficient); innovative financing is needed to advantage clean energy; innovation and implementation is needed in the North and South; scientific, and policy innovations open the door for quantified cases of clean development that, in turn, can reset the political landscape in favour of a low carbon future.” [5]. </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Professor Barry Brook</strong> (Sir Hubert Wilkins Chair of Climate Change, University of Adelaide, Adelaide, South Australia, Australia), 2009:<br />
<blockquote>“1. A cap and trade mechanism is by its nature, an all consuming policy instrument that extinguishes the effectiveness of voluntary actions, harming rather than enhancing the evolution of a low carbon economy. 2. With a cap and trade approach, the target is everything as both the emissions cap and emissions floor are locked in. No one can do better than the cap, and so the cap must be a science based all consuming sustainable target pathway that won’t lock in failure. As we don’t yet have the widespread political and economic preparedness to commit to an all consuming sustainable target pathway (either nationally or internationally), the cap and trade mechanism is the wrong approach and we should instead focus on a carbon tax with complementary mechanisms that would transform the economy more effectively than the [Australian] proposed Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme (CPRS).” [6].</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Larry Lohmann</strong> (climate economist, The Corner House, London, UK); summary of book “Carbon Trading”, by Larry Lohmann, editor, 2006 [implicit in the GHG pollution cessation argument is taxing GHG pollution out of existence]:<br />
<blockquote>“The main cause of global warming is rapidly increasing carbon dioxide emissions &#8212; primarily the result of burning fossil fuels. Some responses to the crisis, however, are causing new and severe problems &#8212; and may even increase global warming. This seems to be the case with carbon trading &#8212; the main current international response to climate change and the centrepiece of the Kyoto Protocol. Carbon trading has two parts. First, governments hand out free tradable rights to emit carbon dioxide to big industrial polluters, allowing them to make money from business as usual. Second, companies buy additional pollution credits from projects in the South that claim to emit less greenhouse gas than they would have without the investment. Most of the carbon credits being sold to industrialized countries come from polluting projects, such as schemes that burn methane from coal mines or waste dumps, which do little to wean the world off fossil fuels.” [7]. </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Dr Robert J. Shapiro</strong> (Chair, U.S. Climate Task Force and finance consultancy firm Sonecon; undersecretary of commerce for economic affairs in the Clinton Administration), January 2009:<br />
<blockquote>“A cap-and-trade system is very unlikely to reduce global greenhouse gas emissions — and more likely to introduce new, trillion-dollar risks for the financial system. The clearest illustration of the problems with cap-and-trade is the European Trading Scheme, based on the Kyoto protocols covering most of Europe. According to a new report by the Government Accountability Office, there’s little if any evidence that the ETS has had any effect at all on emissions in Europe. One reason is that major emitters such as Germany simply exempt many of their facilities generating greenhouse gases. Another factor is the “offset” permits that European “transition” economies, themselves exempt from caps, can sell to other ETS members…the volatile prices for the permits themselves, traded on financial markets, would attract speculation and new financial derivatives, putting us at risk for another crisis. Even more regulations cannot eliminate most of cap-and-trade’s inherent price volatility or the incentives for its participants, including governments, to evade or manipulate the system. These are the main reasons why the father of climate-change politics, Al Gore now prefers carbon-based taxes over cap-and-trade. A carbon tax system would apply a stable price to carbon, creating direct incentives to develop and use less carbon-intensive fuels and more energy-efficient technologies. President-elect Barack Obama is committed equally to fighting climate change and restoring economic growth. The best way to do both is to give up cap-and-trade and learn to love carbon-based taxes.&#8221; [8]. </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>More from Dr Robert J. Shapiro</strong>, March 2009:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;The proper approach here is a straightforward one. First, enact a carbon-based tax to move people and firms to prefer and choose less-carbon-intensive fuels and technologies. Second, as we change the relative prices of different forms of energy based on their effects on the climate, protect people’s incomes and the overall economy by returning all or virtually all of the revenues through payroll tax cuts or lump-sum payments to households. Third, use the certainty of a substantial tax on carbon, along with additional subsidies, to promote the development of new climate-friendly fuels and technologies that can capture a new and fast-growing global market. I recently co-authored a study that used the same modeling system as the Department of Energy to estimate the environmental and economic consequences of applying this specific approach. We found that we can effectively address climate change without harming our economy &#8230; And after the carnage of Wall Street’s recent rounds of malfeasance, it is painfully clear that the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Justice Department simply lack the ability (and the resources) to effectively police complex, fast-moving markets involving many, many thousands or millions of trades per day. Despite its advocates’ good intentions, cap-and-trade could put America at risk of another meltdown — one originally created and financed by the government itself. None of these painful and difficult issues arise with a carbon tax-shift. Rather, it could enable us to effectively do our part in addressing climate change, while protecting or even enhancing our economic prospects. That’s a deal Congress cannot afford to pass up.&#8221; [9].</p></blockquote>
<p>Pro-coal US and pro-coal Australia are world leading greenhouse has (GHG) polluters. Pro-coal, climate criminal  Australia is the world’s biggest coal exporter and a world leading greenhouse gas (GHG) polluter. Thus Australia’s domestic and exported “annual per capita GHG pollution” is 54 tonnes CO2-equivalent per person per year – 2 times that of the US, 10 times that of China, 25 times that of India and 60 times that of Bangladesh.</p>
<p>If the December 2009 Copenhagen Climate Change Conference opts, like the climate criminal nations of the US and Australia, for a Cap-and-Trade Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS), then the World is facing disastrous inaction over man-made global warming and the real prospect of worsening, First World-imposed climate genocide. Top UK climate scientist Dr James Lovelock FRS has estimated  that fewer than 1 billion people will survive global warming this century, this constituting a prospective climate genocide that will kill 10 billion non-Europeans including 6 billion infants, 3 billion Muslims, 2 billion Indians and 0.3 billion Bangladeshis (<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/climate-disruption-climate-emergency-climate-genocide-penultimate-bengali-holocaust-through-sea-level-rise">for detailed documentation see here</a>). </p>
<h2>Key References</h2>
<p>[1]. Dr James Hansen, “Carbon Tax and 100% Dividend vs. Tax and Trade”, Committee on Ways &#038; Means, US House of Representatives, February 2009: <a href="http://www.cleanenergy-project.de/2009/02/25/carbon-tax-100-dividend-vs-tax-trade/">http://cleanenergy-project.de/&#8230;/carbon-tax-100-dividend-vs-tax-trade/</a> ; <a href="http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2009/20090226_WaysAndMeans.pdf">http://www.columbia.edu/&#8230;/WaysAndMeans.pdf</a>.</p>
<p>[2]. Tricia Holly Davis &#038; Jonathan Leake, New Statesman, 26 March 2009: <a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/environment/2009/03/carbon-price-climate-hope-co2">http://newstatesman.com/&#8230;/carbon-price-climate-hope-co2</a>.</p>
<p>[3]. Professor William Nordhaus, “Economic issues in designing a global agreement on global warming”, Keynote plenary address for the 10-12 March 2009 Copenhagen Climate Change Conference on Climate Change: Global Risks, Challenges and Decisions”: <a href="http://climatecongress.ku.dk/speakers/professorwilliamnordhaus-plenaryspeaker-11march2009.pdf/">http://climatecongress.ku.dk/&#8230;/speaker-11march2009.pdf/</a> ; for this and other plenary lectures see: <a href="http://climatecongress.ku.dk/presentations/congresspresentations/">http://climatecongress.ku.dk/&#8230;/congresspresentations/</a>.</p>
<p>[4]. Oliver Tickel, “<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/mar/12/carbon-tax-should-replace-kyoto-protocol">Replace Kyoto Protocol with global carbon tax, says Yale economist</a>”, Guardian, 12 March 2009.</p>
<p>[5]. Professor Daniel M. Kammen, “From climate science to solutions: shared agendas in the North and South”,  Keynote plenary address for the 10-12 March 2009 Copenhagen Climate Change Conference on Climate Change: Global Risks, Challenges and Decisions”: <a href="http://climatecongress.ku.dk/speakers/danielkammen-plenaryspeaker-11march2009.pdf/">http://climatecongress.ku.dk/&#8230;/speaker-11march2009.pdf/</a> ; for this and other plenary lectures see: <a href="http://climatecongress.ku.dk/presentations/congresspresentations/">http://climatecongress.ku.dk/&#8230;/congresspresentations/</a>. </p>
<p>[6]. Professor Barry Brook, “<a href="http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/03/30/cprs-vs-carbon-tax-senate-inquiry/">CPRS versus carbon tax: Senate Inquiry</a>”, 30 March 2009.</p>
<p>[7]. Larry Lohmann, summary of book “<a href="http://www.thecornerhouse.org.uk/summary.shtml?x=544225">Carbon Trading. A critical conversation on climate change, privatisation and power</a>” by Larry Lohmann, editor, 2006, published by Dag Hammarskold Foundation, Durban Group for Climate Justice and The Corner House, 2006.</p>
<p>[8]. Dr Robert J. Shapiro, “<a href="http://www.rollcall.com/news/31397-1.html">The real choice between Cap-and Trade and Carbon-based taxes</a>”, Roll Call, 15 January 2009.</p>
<p>[9]. Dr Robert J. Shapiro, &#8220;<a href="http://www.rollcall.com/features/Mission-Ahead_2009/ma_energy/33565-1.html">Shapiro: economy will force quick action on climate change</a>&#8220;,  Roll Call, 30 March 2009.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[George Monbiot talks with Yvo de Boer, the current Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, in the first of a series of interviews from the Guardian. In the video you can, for example, see Yvo &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2008/12/11/watch-george-monbiot-meets-yvo-de-boer/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Monbiot talks with Yvo de Boer, the current Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, in the first of a series of interviews from the Guardian. In the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/video/2008/dec/08/monbiot-yvo-de-boer-climate">video</a> you can, for example, see Yvo de Boer defend George Bush and expensive Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) projects. </p>
<blockquote><p>In the first of a remarkable series of video interviews, Britain&#8217;s leading green commentator, George Monbiot, charges the UN&#8217;s leading climate change official with lacking ambition for a global emissions deal, and takes him to task over expensive carbon offset schemes and his support for the US president, George Bush. In the coming weeks, Monbiot takes on the bosses of Shell and the International Energy Agency and more.</p></blockquote>
<p>Watch <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/video/2008/dec/08/monbiot-yvo-de-boer-climate">George Monbiot meets Yvo de Boer</a> on the Guardian.</p>
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