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		<title>The Norwegian terrorist is a climate denier</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 01:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you know. This past Friday in Norway Anders Behring Breivik, a conservative, islamophobic and Christian terrorist, detonated a car bomb outside the office of the country&#8217;s Prime Minister and other government buildings in Oslo. Less than two hours later &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2011/07/26/the-norwegian-terrorist-is-a-climate-denier/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know. This past Friday <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks">in Norway</a> Anders Behring Breivik, a conservative, islamophobic and Christian terrorist, detonated a car bomb outside the office of the country&#8217;s Prime Minister and other government buildings in Oslo. Less than two hours later on the island of Utøya the fascist opened fire at a political youth camp organized by the youth organization (AUF) of the <a href="http://arbeiderpartiet.no/">Norwegian Labour Party</a> (AP) killing nearly 70 people, many of whom were only children, and wounding many more. </p>
<p>In a 1500-page long &#8220;manifesto&#8221;, published on the web shortly before <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/07/tragedy-in-norway/100113/">the two attacks</a>, Breivik described his religious and fascist conspiracy theories. In addition to the average islamophobic, undemoratic and nationalistic rantings about Muslims taking over Europe and whatnot he also had a section called &#8220;Green is the new Red – Stop Enviro-Communism&#8221;. According to Breivik global warming is just a eco-Marxist plot, or a &#8220;Anthropogenic Global Warming scam&#8221;, with the end goal of creating a world government: </p>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;You might know them as environmentalists, enviro-communists, eco-Marxists, neo-Communists or eco-fanatics. They all claim they want to save the world from global warming but their true agenda is to contribute to create a world government lead by the UN or in other ways increase the transfer of resources (redistribute resources) from the developed Western world to the third world. They hope to accomplish this through the distribution of misinformation (propaganda) which they hope will lead to increased taxation of already excessively taxed Europeans and US citizens.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Considering the fact that Breivik for several years was a member of the Norwegian <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2008/04/11/global-warming-deniers-and-racists-go-hand-in-hand-in-norway/">Fremskrittspartiet</a> (FrP/FpU), a far-right political party that strongly push the idea of climate change being &#8220;exaggerated&#8221;, the news of him being a climate denier really doesn&#8217;t come to any surprise. But it does show what kind of &#8220;endorsements&#8221; other and more mainstream climate deniers have. No wonder the two conservative and climate denying talking heads Glenn Back and Bill O&#8217;Reilley tried to downplay the terrorist attack in Norway and distance themselves from Breivik. For example. In his radio show <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/26/glenn-beck-norwegian-dead-hitler">Glenn Beck</a> likened the dead Norwegian children on Utøya to Hitler youth. And <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/26/bill-oreilly-media-breivik-christian_n_909498.html">Bill O&#8217;Reilley</a> criticized the media for labeling Breivik as a Christian terrorist and foolishly tried to claim that such a thing was &#8220;impossible&#8221;.</p>
<p>Brad Johnson, from the liberal think-tank and blog Thinkprogress, writes more about <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/07/25/277564/norway-terrorist-is-a-global-warming-denier/">Breivik&#8217;s crazy environmental conspiracy theories</a> and links them to the rhetoric used by American conservatives:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Although Breivik’s conspiracy theories are insane, they are in line with mainstream opinion among American conservatives. He cites Christopher Monckton’s speech before the Minnesota Free Market Institute in 2009, accusing President Obama of trying to cede United States sovereignty to the United Nations through climate treaties. Monckton — a rabid conspiracy theorist who claims his opponents are Nazis — was a Republican witness before Congress on global warming in 2010.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>If you are interested in reading the climate ramblings of a madman and a mass murderer, Brad Johnson has published the whole manifesto excerpt from Breivik&#8217;s climate denying chapter <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/07/25/277564/norway-terrorist-is-a-global-warming-denier/">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;This may be the only political issue whose results could be catastrophic permanently&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a quick quote from Tom Toles, a pulitzer prize-winning political cartoonist at the Washington Post, about the ongoing &#8220;climate debate&#8221;: &#8220;We are apparently going to let the debate on the science run until hell freezes over. If you &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2010/08/19/this-may-be-the-only-political-issue-whose-results-could-be-catastrophic-permanently/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a quick quote from Tom Toles, a pulitzer prize-winning political cartoonist at the Washington Post, about the ongoing &#8220;climate debate&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We are apparently going to let the debate on the science run until hell freezes over. If you can&#8217;t accept the conclusions of 98 percent of the scientists whose FIELD IT IS, then why even bother with science? If that high a percentage of field of study is to be discounted ENTIRELY, then we are in deep trouble, which, of course, we are. It would be so simple if it were just a matter of ignoring the yelping commenters hereabouts: &#8220;Move on, Mr. Cartoonist! Chill out Tommy! There are more important things to worry about!&#8221; </p>
<p>Really? Which would those things be? This may be the only political issue whose results could be catastrophic PERMANENTLY. But the deliberate dust storm thrown up by fossil-fuel-centric interests has succeeded in contaminating and paralyzing the American response. Quite a victory for the deniers! It looks like mass-suicide to me.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>You can read his whole <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/tomtoles/2010/08/friday_rant_heat_exhaustion_e.html">rant about climate deniers here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Gordon Brown calls climate change deniers &#8220;flat-earthers&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2010/04/26/gordon-brown-calls-climate-change-deniers-flat-earthers/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, spoke out against climate change deniers labeling them as anti-science &#8220;flat-earthers&#8221; who are spreading outdated information: &#8220;Mr Brown last night insisted that the science on climate change in settled, and &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2010/04/26/gordon-brown-calls-climate-change-deniers-flat-earthers/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.green-blog.org/media/images/uploads/2010/04/Gordon-Brown.jpg" alt="" title="Gordon Brown" width="220" height="314" class="alignright size-full wp-image-2214" />Recently Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, spoke out against climate change deniers labeling them as <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6729833/Gordon-Brown-climate-change-sceptics-are-flat-earthers.html">anti-science &#8220;flat-earthers&#8221;</a> who are spreading outdated information:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Mr Brown last night insisted that the science on climate change in settled, and accused those who question the consensus of being outdated. </p>
<p>He said: &#8220;With only days to go before Copenhagen we mustn&#8217;t be distracted by the behind-the-times, anti-science, flat-earth climate sceptics. We know the science. We know what we must do.”&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ed Miliband, Brown&#8217;s climate secretary, also recently joined in defending the climate science from the deniers &#8220;<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/31/ed-miliband-climate-change-scepticism">siren voices</a>&#8220;:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We know there&#8217;s a physical effect of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere leading to higher temperatures, that&#8217;s a question of physics; we know CO2 concentrations are at their highest for 6,000 years; we know there are observed increases in temperatures; and we know there are observed effects that point to the existence of human-made climate change. That&#8217;s what the vast majority of scientists tell us.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And Brown and Miliband do have the climate science on their side. Last month a new climate report was released by the Met Office in the UK making <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8550090.stm">the link between climate change and human activity</a> even stronger: <span id="more-2212"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It says the evidence is stronger now than when the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change carried out its last assessment in 2007. The analysis, published in the Wiley Interdisciplinary Reviews Climate Change Journal, has assessed 110 research papers on the subject. </p>
<p>It says the Earth is changing rapidly, probably because of greenhouse gases.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So the science is clear. And our politicians seems to know how to <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2010/02/24/watch-barack-obama-explains-basic-climate-science/">talk about it</a>. It&#8217;s just too bad then that <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2010/02/13/inequality-between-rich-and-poor-nations-helps-fuel-a-climate-of-mistrust-and-sabotages-efforts-to-secure-a-climate-deal/">inequality between rich and poor nations helps fuel a climate of mistrust and sabotages efforts to secure a climate deal</a>.</p>
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		<title>Ice, snow, so where&#8217;s the global warming?</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2009/12/20/ice-snow-so-wheres-the-global-warming/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>People&#39;s World</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Photo credit: laszlo-photo As winter weather hits us again, many people confuse the current weather (cold) with the long-term direction of the climate (warmer). Just because it is cold outside right now doesn&#8217;t mean that global warming isn&#8217;t real. Global &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/12/20/ice-snow-so-wheres-the-global-warming/"></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="flickr"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/40467171@N00/3185734228/" title="The Mountain Exhaled" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/3185734228_93ecd1dfc8_m.jpg" alt="The Mountain Exhaled" border="0" /></a><br /><small><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/" title="Attribution License" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.green-blog.org/wp-content/plugins/photo-dropper/images/cc.png" alt="Creative Commons License" border="0" width="16" height="16" align="absmiddle" /></a> Photo credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/40467171@N00/3185734228/" title="laszlo-photo" target="_blank">laszlo-photo</a></small></div>
<p>As winter weather hits us again, many people confuse the current weather (cold) with the long-term direction of the climate (warmer).</p>
<p>Just because it is cold outside right now doesn&#8217;t mean that global warming isn&#8217;t real. Global warming has to do with the climate, with the long-term trend of the world&#8217;s average temperature. The short-term weather has to do with what is happening this week or next in the part of the world where we currently reside. The two are not identical, and colder weather does not contradict the fact that our climate is warming up.</p>
<p>Another reason the two related but not identical issues are confusing is that global climate change is not uniform across the globe. Just because it is colder where you live doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t warmer, relatively, elsewhere. In fact, global warming is taking place much more at the northern latitudes than in the continental U.S.</p>
<p>This is the reason why, even though the U.S. is experiencing more severe winter weather, the Arctic summer ice is covering less and less of the Arctic water, opening the fabled Northern Passage. It is still very cold at the North Pole, but it is relatively warmer. Average temperatures have already increased in the northern latitudes by almost 4 degrees Fahrenheit, much more than at temperate latitudes.</p>
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<p>This is also one reason among many why global warming is so threatening. As temperatures warm more rapidly nearer both poles, two things happen which bode ill for the entire world.</p>
<p>First, ice, ice sheets and glaciers are melting rapidly, much more rapidly than even the most dire predictions of a few years ago. The glaciers on Greenland are melting more quickly, and also accelerating the speed at which they move towards the open seas. In the Antarctic, massive ice sheets are breaking off. Both these developments will cause a faster than predicted rise in the ocean level. Instead of happening over a thousand years, the complete melting of the Greenland glaciers is likely to take a few hundred years &#8211; and when they are completely melted that will increase sea levels by over 25 feet, inundating many coastal cities.</p>
<p>Second, as the northern latitudes warm more rapidly, more and more of the permafrost will melt, releasing both carbon dioxide and methane that have been frozen for millennia. This could result in runaway global warming, coming on top of the direct human release of greenhouse gases.</p>
<p>There are many more reasons to be concerned about global climate change, but just because it is cold outside is no reason at all to ignore the problem.</p>
<p>In a <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-mckibben/why-politics-as-usual-may_b_382013.html" target="_blank">thoughtful article</a> at HuffingtonPost, environmentalist Bill McKibben explains why climate change is a different kind of problem. He makes the essential point that what climate change skeptics are fighting is not other politicians or scientists; it&#8217;s physics.</p>
<p>In <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pablo-erick-solon-romero-oroza/climate-headed-for-crash_b_383819.html" target="_blank">another good article</a>, Bolivia&#8217;s ambassador to the United Nations explains the seriousness of even sharper cuts in emissions, and also his concept of &#8220;climate debt.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Author: <a href="http://www.peoplesworld.org/marc-brodine">Marc Brodine</a>, <a href="http://www.peoplesworld.org/">People’s World</a></em></p>
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		<title>Penn &amp; Teller claims organic food is &#8220;bullshit&#8221;, fails to mention that their expert is paid by Monsanto</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Penn Jillette and Teller, from the Penn &#38; Teller: Bullshit! TV show, calls in the latest episode organic food for “bullshit” (see video below). Penn and Teller’s main point why organic food is “bullshit” is simply because it “might mean &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/"></a>]]></description>
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<p>Penn Jillette and Teller, from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit!">Penn &amp; Teller: Bullshit!</a> TV show, calls in the latest episode organic food for “bullshit” (<s>see video below</s>). Penn and Teller’s main point why organic food is “bullshit” is simply because it “might mean you&#8217;re getting your food from giant corporations or China.”</p>
<p>But what Penn and Teller fail to mention is that the so called “Food Policy Analyst Expert”, Alex Avery, is paid by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Institute">the Hudson Institute</a>. The Hudson Institute is an American conservative, religious and free market think tank. Simply put, they are corporate lobbyists. And the prestigious-sounding Hudson Institute is funded by giant corporations such as Monsanto, the leading producer of genetically engineered (GE) food.</p>
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<p>You also shouldn&#8217;t forget that Penn and Teller are <a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Penn_and_Teller:_Bullshit!">members of the Cato Institute</a>, which is another libertarian corporate think tank funded by such fine corporations as ExxonMobil. The Cato Institute is known for <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/16/fedex-gm-microsoft-toyota-visa-and-walmart-funds-climate-denialism/">spreading and funding anti-scientific climate denialism</a> and misinformation.</p>
<p>But this is not the first time Penn and Teller’s “Bullshit!” show receives criticism, and especially not when they cover environmental topics. In season one, aired 2003, Penn and Teller claims that the global warming crisis was created by “hysterical hippies and environmentalists”. Their biased and misinformed global warming episode has since then been criticized and debunked. <a href="http://www.logicalscience.com/skeptics/bullsheit.html">Logical Science</a> has listed and debunked the claims Penn and Teller made in the episode:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In Episode 13, season 1 of Penn &amp; Teller: Bullshit! they try to prove the global warming crisis, among other things, was created by the out of control imagination of hysterical hippies and environmentalists. This is why the episode is titled &#8220;Environmental Hysteria&#8221;.  We would just like to point out that Penn Jillette is a <a href="http://www.cato.org/people/jillette.html">research fellow</a> of the <a href="http://www2.exxonmobil.com/files/corporate/public_policy1.pdf">ExxonMobil</a> and Industry funded CATO institute which has strong <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchist">minarchist</a> leanings. This gives Penn Jillete a conflict of interest when it comes to any topic that might require government regulation. During the show he puts Tobacco and Oil funded lobbyists against hippie college protesters.  If a fair match was their intent they should have those lawyers up against any of the scientists on this massive <a href="http://www.logicalscience.com/consensus/consensus.htm">list</a>. Granted the show was officially about &#8220;hysteria&#8221; and not science itself but that doesn&#8217;t excuse them for grossly misrepresenting a very strong <a href="http://www.logicalscience.com/consensus/consensus.htm">scientific consensus</a> and providing facts thats are demonstrably false.  The following is a quoted, sourced, and time stamped point by point analysis of their show. It will focus on the facts presented by Penn &amp; Teller&#8217;s &#8220;experts&#8221;"</p></blockquote>
<p>Another debunked claim by Penn and Teller is that recycling paper would pollute more than making new paper. This is <a href="http://www.de-fact-o.com/fact_read.php?id=62">a false claim</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Recycling also helps prevent pollution. For example, recycling paper instead of making it from new material generates 74 percent less air pollution and uses 50 percent less water.</p></blockquote>
<p>Simply put: Don&#8217;t trust a magician!</p>
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		<title>Climate experts are downplaying the science to avoid despair and inaction</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Photo credit: azrainman Global warming is exaggerated and is just hyped by climate scientists. It&#8217;s not a big deal. That is what you might think if you listen to the mainstream media and its misinformation, or if you believe in &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/05/07/climate-experts-are-downplaying-the-science-to-avoid-despair-and-inaction/"></a>]]></description>
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<p>Global warming is exaggerated and is just hyped by climate scientists. It&#8217;s not a big deal. That is what you might think if you listen to the mainstream media and its misinformation, or if you believe in the denier&#8217;s lies and their anti-science rhetoric about man-made climate change.</p>
<p>But that is so far from the truth that it&#8217;s absurd as a <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/apr/14/global-warming-target-2c">recent poll among climate experts and scientists</a> clearly show. The poll conducted by the Guardian during the scientific conference in <a id="aptureLink_jbIRvcKVCQ" href="http://maps.google.com/maps?om=0&amp;iwloc=addr&amp;f=q&amp;ll=55.6762944%2C12.5681157&amp;hl=en&amp;z=11&amp;ie=UTF8">Copenhagen</a> earlier this year shows that 9 out of 10 climate experts don’t believe we will be able to restrict climate change to 2C:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Almost nine out of 10 climate scientists do not believe political efforts to restrict global warming to 2C will succeed, a Guardian poll reveals today. An average rise of 4-5C by the end of this century is more likely, they say, given soaring carbon emissions and political constraints.</p>
<p>Such a change would disrupt food and water supplies, exterminate thousands of species of plants and animals and trigger massive sea level rises that would swamp the homes of hundreds of millions of people.</p>
<p>The poll of those who follow global warming most closely exposes a widening gulf between political rhetoric and scientific opinions on climate change. While policymakers and campaigners focus on the 2C target, 86% of the experts told the survey they did not think it would be achieved. A continued focus on an unrealistic 2C rise, which the EU defines as dangerous, could even undermine essential efforts to adapt to inevitable higher temperature rises in the coming decades, they warned.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The poll shows that <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/cif-green/2009/apr/14/climate-catastrophe">climate experts are not exaggerating the effects of global warming</a> but that they are actually downplaying and toning down their research in an attempt to avoid despair and inaction among the public.</p>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;It blows the lid on a very different sort of conspiracy: that climate scientists have actually been toning down their message lest the worst-case scenario becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.</p>
<p>As one respondent put it, &#8220;Great things can only be achieved by everyone believing it can be done. How do you think the second world war was won? Churchill didn&#8217;t stand around saying most people think we will lose the war. He said we will fight it on the beaches.&#8221;</p>
<p>Far from over-playing their hand to swell their research coffers, scientists have been toning down their message in an attempt to avoid public despair and inaction.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And this is a bit tricky. I agree that if people begin to think that it’s over and nothing can be done to halt man-made climate change inaction and hopelessness would most likely prevail. But toning down the science is not the way to go. Political leaders and people around the world needs to know the real size and dangers of the climate crisis. How else would we be able to gain public and political support for the actions that are needed to solve the crisis? </p>
<p>Just like James Randerson, the Guardian’s environment website editor and top UK science journalist, says:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Scientists must stop sanitising their message. World leaders and their people need to hear the warnings loud and clear and follow through with radical action that matches the scale of the crisis. Only if they do will future generations look back on what is looking decreasingly likely to be our &#8220;finest hour&#8221;.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>George Monbiot , Europe’s leading green commentator, <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/02/george-monbiot-its-over-now-we-must-adapt-to-what-nature-sends-our-way/">said a few weeks ago that it was all over</a> but argued we can’t afford to abandon our efforts to cut emissions. Because then &#8220;our prophecy is bound to come true&#8221;. </p>
<p>With today’s political inaction the climate experts are correct that it’s over. But with real efforts to curb our emissions we can manage to stabilize the climate at a reasonable and safe level. As <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/04/15/uk-guardian-climate-catastrophe-scientists-message-global-warming/">Climate Progress writes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;No one who reads this blog regularly or follows U.S. politics could possibly believe there is a great chance that we will stabilize anywhere near 450 ppm, anywhere near 2°C warming.</p>
<p>But anyone who reads this blog also understand that it is not too late — not only could we stabilize at 450 ppm at a low total cost, one tenth of a penny on the dollar, we could stabilize at 350 ppm for probably no more than double the cost of stabilizing at 450 ppm.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>What do you think? Is it right or wrong to downplay the climate science to avoid despair and inaction among the public?</p>
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		<title>Evangelical Christians in USA help spread climate denial and confusion</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A survey released this week by the Pew Forum on Religion &#038; Public Life shows that only 47% of people in the USA believes there is evidence of man-made climate change. Although a majority &#8220;believes&#8221; in climate change, over 20% &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/18/evangelical-christians-in-usa-help-spread-climate-denial-and-confusion/"></a>]]></description>
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<p>A survey released this week by the <a href="http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=238">Pew Forum on Religion &#038; Public Life</a> shows that only 47% of people in the USA believes there is evidence of man-made climate change. Although a majority &#8220;believes&#8221; in climate change, over 20% doesn&#8217;t think there is any evidence of the earth warming. And among <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/apr/17/climate-change-religion">white evangelical Protestants in USA</a> only 34% believes the earth is warming due to human activity, while over 30% don’t believe in it at all.</p>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;The poll canvassed views on climate change among the &#8220;major religious traditions&#8221; in the US. Surprise, surprise, it shows that &#8220;white evangelical Protestants&#8221; were the group with the lowest level – 34% of those surveyed – of acceptance that there is solid evidence that global warming is real and that it is attributable to humans. This compares with 47% of the total US population (still startlingly low), and 58% of those surveyed who &#8220;had faith&#8221; but who were unaffiliated to any particular religious tradition.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe those 31% evangelical Protestants believes <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/15/stupidity-in-action-congressman-says-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/">God decides when the earth will end</a>? But I guess it makes more sense for these people to believe in a fairy-tale God that in his name promotes slavery, rape and murder instead of common sense and modern-day science? </p>
<p>But sure. You must give credit where credit is due, I suppose. Some of these evangelical Christians have started highlighting environmental concerns and adopt a more environmentalistic approach. Something they call &#8220;creation care&#8221;. Although it has already <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/01/07/green-bible-sparks-controversy-in-usa/">sparked controversy among evangelicals</a>. </p>
<blockquote><p>Last year, there was even an attempt by some leaders to talk up the need for &#8220;creation care&#8221;, but to dampen concern for global warming. The &#8220;We Get It!&#8221; campaign&#8217;s declaration is something to behold:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;God created everything. He made us in His own image, and commanded us to be fruitful and multiply and watch over His creation. Although separated from God by our sin, we are lovingly restored through Jesus Christ, and take responsibility for being good stewards. Our stewardship of creation must be based on Biblical principles and factual evidence. We face important environmental challenges, but must be cautious of claims that our planet is in peril from speculative dangers like man-made global warming. With billions suffering in poverty, environmental policies must not further oppress the world&#8217;s poor by denying them basic needs. Instead, we must help people fulfill their God-given potential as producers and stewards. We will follow our Lord Jesus Christ and honor God as we use and share the principles of His Word to care for the poor and tend His creation.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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<p>This would just be a silly side note if it weren’t for the fact that while the <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/17/media-copenhagen-global-warming-impacts-worst-case-ipcc/">media in the USA ignores the latest warnings from climate scientists</a> an <a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/116590/Increased-Number-Think-Global-Warming-Exaggerated.aspx">increasing number of people in the US</a> believe global warming is exaggerated. </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Although a majority of Americans believe the seriousness of global warming is either correctly portrayed in the news or underestimated, a record-high 41% now say it is exaggerated. This represents the highest level of public skepticism about mainstream reporting on global warming seen in more than a decade of Gallup polling on the subject.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So unfortunately it seems that these climate and science denying religious fundamentalists is, mainly due to their effective propaganda machine, playing a large part in spreading <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/16/fedex-gm-microsoft-toyota-visa-and-walmart-funds-climate-denialism/">climate denialism</a> and confusion in USA. </p>
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		<title>FedEx, GM, Microsoft, Toyota, Visa, and WalMart funds climate denialism</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Climate Progress well-known companies such as Comcast, FedEx, GM, Honda, Microsoft, TimeWarner, Toyota, Visa, VW, and WalMart is helping to fuel global warming denialism by funding the Cato Institute. &#8220;Comcast, FedEx, GM, Honda, Microsoft, TimeWarner, Toyota (!), Visa, &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/16/fedex-gm-microsoft-toyota-visa-and-walmart-funds-climate-denialism/"></a>]]></description>
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<p>According to <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/31/fedex-gm-microsoft-toyota-visa-and-walmart-support-cato-which-is-buying-expensive-global-warming-denier-ads-attacking-obama/">Climate Progress</a> well-known companies such as Comcast, FedEx, GM, Honda, Microsoft, TimeWarner, Toyota, Visa, VW, and WalMart is helping to fuel global warming denialism by funding the <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/03/27/george-monbiots-royal-flush-of-climate-deniers/">Cato Institute</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Comcast, FedEx, GM, Honda, Microsoft, TimeWarner, Toyota (!), Visa, VW, and WalMart &#8212; these are among the brand name companies who support the global warming denial promoted by the Cato Institute (full list below).</p>
<p>Many of you have probably now seen that absurd anti-scientific denier <a href="http://www.cato.org/special/climatechange/cato_climate.pdf">ad</a> Cato is spending big bucks to put in major newspapers.  &#8220;The New York Times ad alone would have cost over $150,000, based on the newspaper&#8217;s published ad rates,&#8221; <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/03/30/tech-090330-cato-climate-change.html">notes</a> one article.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>The ad attacks President Obama and the whole notion of strong climate action with studies that don&#8217;t even support its basic premise &#8212; see <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/25/cato-institute-global-warming-denial-ad-patrick-michaels-swanson/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: New study quoted by Cato Institute deniers concludes ">New study quoted by Cato deniers concludes &#8220;warming over the 21st century may well be larger than that predicted by the current generation of models&#8221;</a> and RealClimate&#8217;s excellent post (<a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/03/with-all-due-respect/">here</a>).&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>According to Cato’s most recent annual report (2007) these companies are sponsoring the &#8220;extreme&#8221; Cato Institute:</p>
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<li>Altria Corporate Services Inc.</li>
<li>American Petroleum Institute.</li>
<li>Amerisure Companies.</li>
<li>Comcast Corp.</li>
<li>Consumer Electronics Association.</li>
<li>FedEx Corp.</li>
<li>Freedom Communications Inc.</li>
<li>General Motors Corp.</li>
<li>Honda North America Inc.</li>
<li>Mazda North America Operations.</li>
<li>Microsoft Corporation.</li>
<li>R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.</li>
<li>TimeWarner Inc.</li>
<li>Toyota Motor Corp.</li>
<li>UST Inc.</li>
<li>Visa USA Inc.</li>
<li>Volkswagen of America Inc.</li>
<li>Wal-Mart Stores Inc.</li>
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<p><strong>Shame on them!</strong></p>
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		<title>George Monbiot&#8217;s royal flush of climate deniers</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[George Monbiot, Europe’s leading green commentator, has listed his royal flush of climate change deniers. These are the people “who have done most for the denialist cause” and they include deniers (or should I say climate change creationists?) like David &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/03/27/george-monbiots-royal-flush-of-climate-deniers/"></a>]]></description>
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<p>George Monbiot, Europe’s leading green commentator, has listed his <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/gallery/2009/mar/09/climate-change-deniers-monbiot-cards?picture=344343776">royal flush of climate change deniers</a>. These are the people “who have done most for the denialist cause” and they include deniers (or should I say <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/03/13/climate-change-creationists/">climate change creationists</a>?) like David Bellamy, Sarah Palin, Václav Klaus and Steve Milloy.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Ace of spades, David Bellamy, TV presenter:</strong> David Bellamy has claimed that global warming is &#8220;poppycock&#8221;, that &#8220;the global warmers are telling lies – carbon dioxide is not the driver&#8221;. He maintains that &#8220;since I said I didn&#8217;t believe human beings caused global warming I&#8217;ve not been allowed to make a TV programme.&#8221; This is odd because he stopped making TV programmes in 1994. He was making public statements in support of mainstream climate science until at least 2000. But the conspiracy extends even further. &#8220;Have you noticed there is a wind turbine on Teletubbies?&#8221;, he asked in the Daily Express. &#8220;That&#8217;s subliminal advertising, isn&#8217;t it?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><strong>King of diamonds, Christopher Booker, Sunday Telegraph columnist:</strong> Booker writes a column in the Sunday Telegraph. It&#8217;s filled with so many misleading claims about climate change, evolution, asbestos, speed cameras and the European Union that it would take an encyclopedia to document them.</p>
<p><strong>Queen of spades, Melanie Phillips, Daily Mail columnist:</strong> Mel P (Genuinely Scary Spice) claims that &#8220;the theory that global warming is all the fault of mankind is a massive scam based on flawed computer modelling, bad science and an anti-western ideology … The majority of well-meaning opinion in the Western world believes a pack of lies and propaganda&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/gallery/2009/mar/09/climate-change-deniers-monbiot-cards?picture=344343776">Click here to discover the other deniers!</a></p>
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		<title>Al Gore: nuclear power is not the answer to our energy and climate crisis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[DAVOS/SWITZERLAND, 30JAN05 &#8211; Al Gore at the Annual Meeting 2005 of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, January 30, 2005. Photo by Severin Nowacki. In an interview with the Guardian last week Al Gore talked about the climate negotiations &#8230; <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/03/18/al-gore-nuclear-power-is-not-the-answer-to-our-energy-and-climate-crisis/"></a>]]></description>
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<div class="imgdesc">DAVOS/SWITZERLAND, 30JAN05 &#8211; Al Gore at the Annual Meeting 2005 of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, January 30, 2005. Photo by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldeconomicforum/346678227/">Severin Nowacki</a>.</div>
<p>In an <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/14/al-gore-climate-change1">interview with the Guardian</a> last week Al Gore talked about the climate negotiations in Copenhagen this year, the European carbon market, climate change deniers, smart grids and nuclear energy. </p>
<p>The most surprising comment from Gore was about nuclear energy and its role in fighting climate change. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/mar/16/climate-change-al-gore">According to Gore nuclear energy is not the answer</a> to our problems because it’s dirty, too expensive, unsafe and that it poses a threat to world peace. </p>
<blockquote><p>“I&#8217;m not a reflexive opponent of nuclear. I used to be enthusiastic about it, but I&#8217;m now sceptical about it. There&#8217;s a few reasons. Let&#8217;s assume for the moment that we will solve the problem of long-term storage of radioactive waste. Let&#8217;s assume also that we&#8217;ll figure out how to standardise their design as [each plant] is currently unique and that enhances the risk of operator accidents. Let&#8217;s assume we can solve the terrorism threat to nuclear reactors. That still leaves a couple of very difficult problems.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>First and foremost, economics. The nuclear industry cannot give any reliable cost estimate for how much it will take to build a nuclear plant. When a utility is confronted with the absence of any advances for how much the construction cost is going to be, then that&#8217;s a problem. Because the economics of nuclear only work at scale. You&#8217;ve got to have a 1,000 megawatt plant for it to be efficient and competitive. In the current environment, if you run a large utility that sells electricity you&#8217;ve got a certain amount of money to allocate in your budget. If you&#8217;re looking at the trends towards more conservation and the rapid introduction of renewables, it&#8217;s hard for you to project what your demand is going to be with as much precision as when the world was more predictable. As a result, you are less inclined to take all of your money and place one big bet on something that matures 12-15 years from now at an uncertain cost. That what&#8217;s called a &#8220;lumpy investment&#8221; and they want smaller increments that give them smaller flexibility. In the US, there hasn&#8217;t been a new order for a new reactor in 36 years.</p>
<p>Yes, there is [more appetite for nuclear power now]. And because of the carbon crisis there will be more nuclear plants built and some of those being retired will be replaced by others. I think it will play a somewhat larger role, but it will not be the main option chosen.</p>
<p>Whatever countries such as the US and the UK do, it will have a demonstration effect for the rest of the world. As the world comes to grips with how to solve the climate crisis, we in the US and the UK have a leadership role. If we told the rest of the world that nuclear is the answer [they would follow]. For the eight years that I spent in the White House every nuclear weapons proliferation problem we dealt with was connected to a reactor programme. People have said for years that there are now completely different [nuclear] technologies. OK, but if you have a team of scientists that can build a reactor, and you&#8217;re a dictator, you can make them work at night to build a nuclear weapon. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s happened in North Korea and Iran. And in Libya before they gave it up. So the idea of, say, Chad, Burma, and Sudan having lots of nuclear reactors is insane and it&#8217;s not going to happen.”</p></blockquote>
<p>And Greenpeace was of course happy by Gore’s comment. Martin Lloyd, from the Greenpeace blog <a href="http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives/2009/03/al_gore_doesnt_think_nuclear_p.html">Making Waves</a>, said that:</p>
<blockquote><p>“It&#8217;s always nice when people agree with you. We&#8217;ve maintained that nuclear power is a dangerous distraction to the real solutions to the climate crisis for a long time now. It&#8217;s dirty, it&#8217;s unsafe, it&#8217;s a threat to world peace and it is terribly, terribly expensive.”</p>
<p>“Now, Al Gore, who&#8217;s sometimes been on the other side of this argument has come round to our position. Because, as he notes, even if you assume problems with safety and waste can be overcome, it just doesn&#8217;t make sense economically.”</p></blockquote>
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