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	<title>Comments on: Atomkraft? Nein danke! 50.000 people protest against nuclear energy in Germany</title>
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		<title>By: fj198602</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 07:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fj198602</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bathmateus</title>
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		<dc:creator>bathmateus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting posting. Thanks for the info. Keep up the good work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a herf=&quot;http://www.bathmateus.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bathmate&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting posting. Thanks for the info. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: uiess</title>
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		<dc:creator>uiess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One correction: Actually the Social Democratic Party still shares power with Angela Merkel&#039;s conservative party. So there is no conservative coalition in Germany. I am afraid that there will be after the elections on 9/27.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One correction: Actually the Social Democratic Party still shares power with Angela Merkel&#39;s conservative party. So there is no conservative coalition in Germany. I am afraid that there will be after the elections on 9/27.</p>
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		<title>By: RodAdams</title>
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		<dc:creator>RodAdams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon - the facts do not back up your assertions. Even your links are to documents that talk about the cost of future plants - which is a topic ripe for endless discussion because no one knows how much they might cost. That a debate topic where anyone is allowed to assert almost anything, after all, it is about the future.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When it comes to a discussion about keeping 17 well built, well operated EXISTING nuclear plants running until they are at the end of their useful lives, the discussion about cost is something entirely different. According to page 39 of a book titled &quot;Risks and benefits of nuclear energy&quot; (available on Google Books with a very complex link) here are the costs of various forms of electricity in Germany in 2003 in euro cents per kilowatt-hour:&lt;br&gt;Lignite - 3.3&lt;br&gt;Hard coal - 3.0&lt;br&gt;Oil - 3.1&lt;br&gt;Gas - 3.6&lt;br&gt;Nuclear - 2.1&lt;br&gt;Hydro - 7&lt;br&gt;Wind - 7&lt;br&gt;Solar PB - 60 (that is right, sixty cents per kilowatt hour!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These costs come from actual accounting data on real plants. They are not figments of someone&#039;s imagination or predictions of the future.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My reason for introducing Schroeder&#039;s betrayal into the discussion is that it should cause one to question why he was so adamant about shutting down those already constructed plants. Causing a market demand for Russian natural gas at a time when he might have been negotiating in private for a lucrative private position after &quot;serving&quot; as Chancellor just might be a logical explanation for his actions, especially when you find out just how greedy he was for personal wealth and status symbols. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Say what you will about future nuclear plants; it is hard to assert that the existing ones are expensive to run or cause greenhouse gas emission. Heck, there are some places where governments have threatened to slap a windfall profits tax on nuclear electricity generators because they are so profitable when selling electricity in a competitive market whose price is set by natural gas or in a market where coal plants have to purchase emissions credits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon &#8211; the facts do not back up your assertions. Even your links are to documents that talk about the cost of future plants &#8211; which is a topic ripe for endless discussion because no one knows how much they might cost. That a debate topic where anyone is allowed to assert almost anything, after all, it is about the future.</p>
<p>When it comes to a discussion about keeping 17 well built, well operated EXISTING nuclear plants running until they are at the end of their useful lives, the discussion about cost is something entirely different. According to page 39 of a book titled &#8220;Risks and benefits of nuclear energy&#8221; (available on Google Books with a very complex link) here are the costs of various forms of electricity in Germany in 2003 in euro cents per kilowatt-hour:<br />Lignite &#8211; 3.3<br />Hard coal &#8211; 3.0<br />Oil &#8211; 3.1<br />Gas &#8211; 3.6<br />Nuclear &#8211; 2.1<br />Hydro &#8211; 7<br />Wind &#8211; 7<br />Solar PB &#8211; 60 (that is right, sixty cents per kilowatt hour!)</p>
<p>These costs come from actual accounting data on real plants. They are not figments of someone&#39;s imagination or predictions of the future.</p>
<p>My reason for introducing Schroeder&#39;s betrayal into the discussion is that it should cause one to question why he was so adamant about shutting down those already constructed plants. Causing a market demand for Russian natural gas at a time when he might have been negotiating in private for a lucrative private position after &#8220;serving&#8221; as Chancellor just might be a logical explanation for his actions, especially when you find out just how greedy he was for personal wealth and status symbols. </p>
<p>Say what you will about future nuclear plants; it is hard to assert that the existing ones are expensive to run or cause greenhouse gas emission. Heck, there are some places where governments have threatened to slap a windfall profits tax on nuclear electricity generators because they are so profitable when selling electricity in a competitive market whose price is set by natural gas or in a market where coal plants have to purchase emissions credits.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Leufstedt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Within one month after he lost in his reelection bid to Ms. Merkel, he accepted a high level position with Gazprom, the Russian natural gas monopoly, with the responsibility of directing the completion of a gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt; Yes you are correct. And in my opinion that is morally wrong. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But that doesn&#039;t take away the fact that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.green-blog.org/2008/09/09/nuclear-energy-is-expensive-dangerous-not-cost-effective-and-will-worsen-climate-change/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nuclear energy is Expensive, Dangerous, Not Cost-Effective&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/16/new-report-nuclear-power-will-not-solve-climate-change/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Will Worsen Climate Change&lt;/a&gt;. Simply put: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.green-blog.org/2009/03/18/al-gore-nuclear-power-is-not-the-answer-to-our-energy-and-climate-crisis/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nuclear power is not the answer to our energy and climate crisis&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Within one month after he lost in his reelection bid to Ms. Merkel, he accepted a high level position with Gazprom, the Russian natural gas monopoly, with the responsibility of directing the completion of a gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p> Yes you are correct. And in my opinion that is morally wrong. </p>
<p>But that doesn&#39;t take away the fact that <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2008/09/09/nuclear-energy-is-expensive-dangerous-not-cost-effective-and-will-worsen-climate-change/" rel="nofollow">Nuclear energy is Expensive, Dangerous, Not Cost-Effective</a> and <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/16/new-report-nuclear-power-will-not-solve-climate-change/" rel="nofollow">Will Worsen Climate Change</a>. Simply put: <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2009/03/18/al-gore-nuclear-power-is-not-the-answer-to-our-energy-and-climate-crisis/" rel="nofollow">nuclear power is not the answer to our energy and climate crisis</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: RodAdams</title>
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		<dc:creator>RodAdams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something that critical thinkers should know about Gerhard Schroeder, the Social Democratic chancellor who negotiated the deal to shut down Germany&#039;s 17 emission free nuclear power plants well before the end of their useful life.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Within one month after he lost in his reelection bid to Ms. Merkel, he accepted a high level position with Gazprom, the Russian natural gas monopoly, with the responsibility of directing the completion of a gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany. &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/ss8Qo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/ss8Qo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The gas that the pipeline will carry will be used as part of the replacement power generation capacity. So will the biofuels produced by the farmers who led the protests in Berlin. Both gas and biofuels would have a smaller market at a lower price if the nuclear plants were kept in service.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The dispute is not just about illogical fear of the potential consequences of a nuclear plant accident, it is also about a logical - if slightly immoral - desire to make money by selling goods that would not be needed if the useful plants were not prematurely removed from service. People motivated by greed are apparently is winning the hearts and minds of Germans, even though the result will be that they will pay higher prices for dirtier electricity than they would if the plants kept running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something that critical thinkers should know about Gerhard Schroeder, the Social Democratic chancellor who negotiated the deal to shut down Germany&#39;s 17 emission free nuclear power plants well before the end of their useful life.</p>
<p>Within one month after he lost in his reelection bid to Ms. Merkel, he accepted a high level position with Gazprom, the Russian natural gas monopoly, with the responsibility of directing the completion of a gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany. <a href="http://bit.ly/ss8Qo" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/ss8Qo</a></p>
<p>The gas that the pipeline will carry will be used as part of the replacement power generation capacity. So will the biofuels produced by the farmers who led the protests in Berlin. Both gas and biofuels would have a smaller market at a lower price if the nuclear plants were kept in service.</p>
<p>The dispute is not just about illogical fear of the potential consequences of a nuclear plant accident, it is also about a logical &#8211; if slightly immoral &#8211; desire to make money by selling goods that would not be needed if the useful plants were not prematurely removed from service. People motivated by greed are apparently is winning the hearts and minds of Germans, even though the result will be that they will pay higher prices for dirtier electricity than they would if the plants kept running.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuclear energy, especially in its current state, is underdeveloped when taking the environment into account. Solar energy is the way to go.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For more info regarding solar energy, have a look at this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greentimes.com.au/energy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Green Journal&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear energy, especially in its current state, is underdeveloped when taking the environment into account. Solar energy is the way to go.</p>
<p>For more info regarding solar energy, have a look at this <a href="http://www.greentimes.com.au/energy/" rel="nofollow">Green Journal</a>.</p>
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