Comments on: Penn & Teller claims organic food is “bullshit”, fails to mention that their expert is paid by Monsanto http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Neilslade http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/comment-page-1/#comment-5818 Neilslade Thu, 22 Dec 2011 07:58:00 +0000 http://www.green-blog.org/?p=1785#comment-5818 I learned long ago to not take Penn and Teller's myth busting seriously. They are not scientists, they are entertainers. I've seen them get their "facts" completely twisted- their show has virtually nothing to do with unbiased research-- they simply look for a way to sell their own line of bullshit and their TV show. Take their show blasting organic foods- who did they interview to prove their science? The Hudson Institute-- a neoconservative think tank representing Proctor and Gamble and others who make their living selling absolute junk The Hudson Institute is supported by donations from companies and individuals. Corporate contributors listed in a publication from 2001 included Eli Lilly and Company, Monsanto Company, DuPont, Dow-Elanco, Sandoz, Ciba-Geigy, ConAgra, Cargill, and Procter & Gamble.[8] The biggest problem with Penn and Teller is that they actually sell their entertainment as neutral fact finding. And people believe it. Guess Barnum was right. Enough said of Penn and Teller Science. It's bullshit. I learned long ago to not take Penn and Teller’s myth busting seriously.

They are not scientists, they are entertainers.

I’ve seen them get their “facts” completely twisted- their show has virtually nothing to do with
unbiased research– they simply look for a way to sell their own line of bullshit and their TV show.

Take their show blasting organic foods-

who did they interview to prove their science?

The Hudson Institute– a neoconservative think tank representing Proctor and Gamble and others who make
their living selling absolute junk

The Hudson Institute is supported by donations from companies and individuals. Corporate contributors listed in a publication from 2001 included Eli Lilly and Company, Monsanto Company, DuPont, Dow-Elanco, Sandoz, Ciba-Geigy, ConAgra, Cargill, and Procter & Gamble.[8]

The biggest problem with Penn and Teller is that they actually sell their entertainment as neutral fact finding. And people believe it.

Guess Barnum was right.

Enough said of Penn and Teller Science.

It’s bullshit.

]]> By: Simon Leufstedt http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/comment-page-1/#comment-5559 Simon Leufstedt Sat, 08 Oct 2011 10:42:00 +0000 http://www.green-blog.org/?p=1785#comment-5559 Yeah, you're right, that sentence doesn't sound good now when I re-read it. Thanks for pointing that out and helping me improve my grammar. :) Yeah, you’re right, that sentence doesn’t sound good now when I re-read it. Thanks for pointing that out and helping me improve my grammar. :)

]]> By: b http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/comment-page-1/#comment-5557 b Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:32:00 +0000 http://www.green-blog.org/?p=1785#comment-5557 Hmm, don't trust a magician?  But how can we trust an article that doesn't even adhere to grammatical rules? Case in point: "You should also don’t forget that..." I'll just leave it at that. Hmm, don’t trust a magician?  But how can we trust an article that doesn’t even adhere to grammatical rules? Case in point:

“You should also don’t forget that…”

I’ll just leave it at that.

]]> By: Cody http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/comment-page-1/#comment-5396 Cody Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:38:00 +0000 http://www.green-blog.org/?p=1785#comment-5396 " So to summon up, farmers are stupid for using more expensive GE seeds that give same ammount of food which is of lesser quality and cheaper than organic food." You've got "GE" and "organic" in the wrong spots, sans the "cheaper" bit of course. Otherwise, you'd have had a valid point. Oh, and it's, "To sum it up", genius. ” So to summon up, farmers are stupid for using more expensive GE seeds that give same ammount of food which is of lesser quality and cheaper than organic food.”

You’ve got “GE” and “organic” in the wrong spots, sans the “cheaper” bit of course. Otherwise, you’d have had a valid point.

Oh, and it’s, “To sum it up”, genius.

]]> By: Cody http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/comment-page-1/#comment-5395 Cody Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:35:00 +0000 http://www.green-blog.org/?p=1785#comment-5395 I suggest you spend a little more time reading and learning, and a little less time posting juvenile abuse on the internet. You REALLY need to start heeding your own advice, David. I suggest you spend a little more time reading and learning, and a little less time posting juvenile abuse on the internet.

You REALLY need to start heeding your own advice, David.

]]> By: Cody http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/comment-page-1/#comment-5394 Cody Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:32:00 +0000 http://www.green-blog.org/?p=1785#comment-5394 "Your Friendly Environmentalist Propaganda Office. " Well, at least you're honest. “Your Friendly Environmentalist Propaganda Office. ”

Well, at least you’re honest.

]]> By: Cody http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/comment-page-1/#comment-5393 Cody Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:31:00 +0000 http://www.green-blog.org/?p=1785#comment-5393 In fact, "belittling legitimate scientific evidence" seems to be a staple of the organic movement. Their froth-mouthed attempts to shun all contrary science, no matter how thoroughly supported, as "corporate propaganda" is the precise tactic employed by the homepaths and purveryors of other New Age-oriented snake oil, whose customers, suppliers and vocal supporters are also conveniently the same sorts who prop up 'organic' dogma. Funny thing, that. In fact, “belittling legitimate scientific evidence” seems to be a staple of the organic movement. Their froth-mouthed attempts to shun all contrary science, no matter how thoroughly supported, as “corporate propaganda” is the precise tactic employed by the homepaths and purveryors of other New Age-oriented snake oil, whose customers, suppliers and vocal supporters are also conveniently the same sorts who prop up ‘organic’ dogma. Funny thing, that.

]]> By: Cody http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/comment-page-1/#comment-5392 Cody Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:29:00 +0000 http://www.green-blog.org/?p=1785#comment-5392 "yet by belittling those on the other side with legitimate scientific evidence" Funny how this "legitimate scientific evidence" in favor of organic farming is never actually cited. Maybe because it doesn't actually exist? “yet by belittling those on the other side with legitimate scientific evidence”

Funny how this “legitimate scientific evidence” in favor of organic farming is never actually cited.
Maybe because it doesn’t actually exist?

]]> By: Cody http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/comment-page-1/#comment-5391 Cody Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:26:00 +0000 http://www.green-blog.org/?p=1785#comment-5391 "and if people believe fast food is good for them when fast food is not good for them who profits the poeple or the people behind the fast food industries..i cried a little bit inside when penn and teller did the fast food episode the food industry totally used penn and teller to lead to seperate people from the reality of fast food " So, you're admitting that you didn't bother to watch the episode, and are only having a knee-jerk reaction because they DARED to argue in favor of people being allowed to choose their own diets because it flies in the face of your authoritarian need to control the behaviors of other people? Y'know, much like the initial author and the Organic Farming episode. Because not once did they ever make the argument that fast food was "healthy". I don't know of ANYONE who believes that. “and if people believe fast food is good for them when fast food is not good for them who profits the poeple or the people behind the fast food industries..i cried a little bit inside when penn and teller did the fast food episode the food industry totally used penn and teller to lead to seperate people from the reality of fast food ”
So, you’re admitting that you didn’t bother to watch the episode, and are only having a knee-jerk reaction because they DARED to argue in favor of people being allowed to choose their own diets because it flies in the face of your authoritarian need to control the behaviors of other people? Y’know, much like the initial author and the Organic Farming episode.

Because not once did they ever make the argument that fast food was “healthy”. I don’t know of ANYONE who believes that.

]]> By: Cody http://www.green-blog.org/2009/08/05/penn-teller-claims-organic-food-is-bullshit-fails-to-mention-that-their-expert-is-paid-by-monsanto/comment-page-1/#comment-5390 Cody Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:22:00 +0000 http://www.green-blog.org/?p=1785#comment-5390 "you know why the organic farmers are making more money in not even half the time as conventional farmers ? because ORGANIC farming is more sutainable and can feed the world. " So, what you're saying is, you don't understand what the word "sustainable" means? “you know why the organic farmers are making more money in not even half the time as conventional farmers ? because ORGANIC farming is more sutainable and can feed the world. ”

So, what you’re saying is, you don’t understand what the word “sustainable” means?

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