Comments on: Overpopulation is not the problem – overconsumption by the rich few is

By: Simon Leufstedt

Simon Leufstedt — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:30:00 +0000

That quote comes from this Yale Environment 360 blog post: http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2140

By: Lena

Lena — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 00:18:00 +0000

Hi there, I was wondering could you please tell me the source of this quote?
[…]By almost any measure, a small proportion of the world’s people take the majority of the world’s resources and produce the majority of its pollution. Take carbon dioxide emissions — a measure of our impact on climate but also a surrogate for fossil fuel consumption. Stephen Pacala, director of the Princeton Environment Institute, calculates that the world’s richest half-billion people — that’s about 7 percent of the global population — are responsible for 50 percent of the world’s carbon dioxide emissions. Meanwhile the poorest 50 percent are responsible for just 7 percent of emissions.”

Many thanks,

Lena

By: FuturEconomy Blog » Will the New York Times Profit Off an Elitist Profile?

FuturEconomy Blog » Will the New York Times Profit Off an Elitist Profile? — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 06:38:08 +0000

[...] to 5 billion.” Well, we certainly could go a long way toward solving our resource problem by eliminating the wealthiest billion humans, but something tells me that isn’t who Grantham is thinking about. (I don’t [...]

By: Jessica Forester

Jessica Forester — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:59:00 +0000

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By: UncleB

UncleB — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:00:26 +0000

The nuclear fission feast about to break loose in the West will change the numbers dramatically! Even China now has nuclear sourced electricity plants and electric bullet train networks! Cutting down Western oil consumption, allowing Western populations to shrink, returning some Western lands to rural uses, even tapping the excess heat from nuclear plants to operate greenhouses, heat homes grow gardens, as Sweden has done will help balance the equation. Much that once required heavy labor in the West is now performed by machine, large high caloric high fat diets for laborers is not called for! Expect a lighter faster smarter breed to overtake the Great Hulking American Neanderthals of the "Smoke Stack" era, Cars are made in Asian factories, mostly by 89 pound computer assisted women, no longer American made with bruit force of a 6 ' 5" 280 pound man, so as he dies away, so does the market for his food - the American diet. With electromechanical assistance and computer driven machines much more is accomplished by very much weaker smaller, rice and veggies diet beings, a break for the farmers for a starter, and the environment certainly suffers less! Science has provided even the bio-gassing of humanure, and in Oslo, Norway city buses are run on these gases, same story all over Sweden and into parts of England. The anomaly in the picture, the Great Hulking American Neanderthal, the product of corporatists and capitalists selecting the largest strongest, humans they could find, and force feeding them, breeding them, to giant size, for the rapid exploitation of the easy resources of America is over now, and they stand, huge frames, great biceps hanging at their sides in the soup-lines, unemployable in a modernized America they built with their own hands, ready for the American Medical Cartel's "Insurance Corporations" to cut them from even decent medical care, a penalty for their unemployability and a certain death sentence - such is life for the capitalist. Even Gobbles or Himmler would marvel at this, I am certain! None the less, rapid changes are occurring in the U.S. and the Western World that will rescue the environment. Proof positive that this is actually underway, you ask? Check out the ruins depicted in these sites for photo-proof positve of the change America undergoes as we speak!
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2Nrlnk/exiledonli...
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http://www.marchandmeffre.com/detroit/index.html
http://www.jamesgriffioen.net/index.php?/prairi...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8YdmLkDmjU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhJ_49leBw&NR=1...
Caution! This documentation is not complete! The "Rust Belt" outlines even more damage, and some large cities have given up on restoring and are speaking of turning space once occupied by city dwelling Great Hulking
American Neanderthals into farmland! Cleveland, Ohio, parts of New York, Even sections of Boston! Nothing is sacred! The text books that describe Detroit City as grand have outlasted the place they were written about! In a very few decades all will be rubble and slum. Even the more recent flurry of McMansions are foreclosed and stripped of all value by the night-scavengers in exchange for food! Beware! do not believe the popular propaganda about the U.S.A. - it is just that! Propaganda! Americans cannot afford the oil they burn now, and are falling deeply in debt just maintaining a weak scaffolding of their Status Quo. Expect a total breakdown in the decades to come. Expect relief for the Global Warming situation and expect a burgeoning Asia to assume in large part, the 80% of world resources America now commands. Decades, not longer!

By: Dale

Dale — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:28:54 +0000

Yeah, I guess that's why there are so many endangered species on the way out, because encroachment of habitat by humans is not a problem.

This is a shallow analysis of a complex problem. There's far more to overpopulation than mere consumption, and consumption is not static in the first place. Over time every one will want to consume more. Someone in Bangladesh may have a footprint of only 0.9 hectares, but how many people want to live like that? How many Bangladeshis even want to live like that? Many of them are immigrating to Western countries so they don't have to live like that.

I'm not saying we in the West shouldn't strive to live less profligately. For myself, I consume far less meat than most Americans, and live rather austerely by comparison, though I'm sure my footprint is still much larger than most people not in the West.

Still, overpopulation depends on many factors. It doesn't matter at all if a woman with ten children has a smaller footprint than a single American if she has no way to get enough water for her family, for example. It also depends on whether you value large animals like tigers, elephants, rhinos, leopards, etc. It's important to point out the consumption of the West, but simplistic and unrealistic arguments are not the way to do it.

By: fj198602

fj198602 — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:49:03 +0000