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	<title>Comments on: Evangelical Christians in USA help spread climate denial and confusion</title>
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		<title>By: Simon Leufstedt</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/18/evangelical-christians-in-usa-help-spread-climate-denial-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-5802</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is overwhelming evidence that make it very clear that the rise in atmospheric CO2 is due to human emissions. And there is a strong scientific concensus about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is overwhelming evidence that make it very clear that the rise in atmospheric CO2 is due to human emissions. And there is a strong scientific concensus about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Leufstedt</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/18/evangelical-christians-in-usa-help-spread-climate-denial-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-5801</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Leufstedt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With &quot;climate bible&quot; I guess you mean the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.green-blog.org/2007/11/21/summary-of-the-summary-of-the-2007-ipcc-ar4-synthesis-report/ &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IPCC AR4 Synthesis Report&lt;/a&gt; from 2007? And these non-peer reviewed sources you are talking about are called &quot;gray literature&quot;: 

&quot;The IPCC cites 18,000 references in the AR4; the vast majority of these are peer-reviewed scientific journal papers. The IPCC maintains a clear guideline on the responsible use of so-called “gray” literature, which are typically reports by other organizations or governments. Especially for Working Groups 2 and 3 (but in some cases also for 1) it is indispensable to use gray sources, since many valuable data are published in them: reports by government statistics offices, the International Energy Agency, World Bank, UNEP and so on. This is particularly true when it comes to regional impacts in the least developed countries, where knowledgeable local experts exist who have little chance, or impetus, to publish in international science journals. Reports by non-governmental organizations like the WWF can be used [...] but any information from them needs to be carefully checked [...] (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/02/ipcc-errors-facts-and-spin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Source&lt;/a&gt;).&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With &#8220;climate bible&#8221; I guess you mean the <a href="http://www.green-blog.org/2007/11/21/summary-of-the-summary-of-the-2007-ipcc-ar4-synthesis-report/ " rel="nofollow">IPCC AR4 Synthesis Report</a> from 2007? And these non-peer reviewed sources you are talking about are called &#8220;gray literature&#8221;: </p>
<p>&#8220;The IPCC cites 18,000 references in the AR4; the vast majority of these are peer-reviewed scientific journal papers. The IPCC maintains a clear guideline on the responsible use of so-called “gray” literature, which are typically reports by other organizations or governments. Especially for Working Groups 2 and 3 (but in some cases also for 1) it is indispensable to use gray sources, since many valuable data are published in them: reports by government statistics offices, the International Energy Agency, World Bank, UNEP and so on. This is particularly true when it comes to regional impacts in the least developed countries, where knowledgeable local experts exist who have little chance, or impetus, to publish in international science journals. Reports by non-governmental organizations like the WWF can be used [...] but any information from them needs to be carefully checked [...] (<a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/02/ipcc-errors-facts-and-spin/" rel="nofollow">Source</a>).&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/18/evangelical-christians-in-usa-help-spread-climate-denial-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-5799</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 03:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no overwhelming evidence.  Check my other post.  

If it doesn&#039;t shake your faith, I wonder why.  AGW dogma, such as &quot;it&#039;s all peer reviewed&quot; is a scam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no overwhelming evidence.  Check my other post.  </p>
<p>If it doesn&#8217;t shake your faith, I wonder why.  AGW dogma, such as &#8220;it&#8217;s all peer reviewed&#8221; is a scam.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/18/evangelical-christians-in-usa-help-spread-climate-denial-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-5798</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Significant increases in &quot;climate denial&quot; (as the AGW INDUSTRY loves to call it) come as the AGW INDUSTRY is found to play fast and loose with supposed facts.

Just one example:  The INDUSTRY claims &quot;peer review&quot; on all its scientists&#039; postulations, presuming that such solidarity will intimidate non-believers.  How does the INDUSTRY hope to convince a scientist of its integrity when, for example, 5,587 of 18,531 references in the 2007 Climate Bible are found to NOT peer reviewed?

So when the AGW INDUSTRY actually LOSES converts, why is it surprising?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Significant increases in &#8220;climate denial&#8221; (as the AGW INDUSTRY loves to call it) come as the AGW INDUSTRY is found to play fast and loose with supposed facts.</p>
<p>Just one example:  The INDUSTRY claims &#8220;peer review&#8221; on all its scientists&#8217; postulations, presuming that such solidarity will intimidate non-believers.  How does the INDUSTRY hope to convince a scientist of its integrity when, for example, 5,587 of 18,531 references in the 2007 Climate Bible are found to NOT peer reviewed?</p>
<p>So when the AGW INDUSTRY actually LOSES converts, why is it surprising?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/18/evangelical-christians-in-usa-help-spread-climate-denial-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-4394</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 04:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Care to elaborate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Care to elaborate?</p>
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		<title>By: public records</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/18/evangelical-christians-in-usa-help-spread-climate-denial-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-4382</link>
		<dc:creator>public records</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 14:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it seems the climate for religious freedom is taking a significant turn for the worse. ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it seems the climate for religious freedom is taking a significant turn for the worse. &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: www.lookedhardy.com</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/18/evangelical-christians-in-usa-help-spread-climate-denial-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-4155</link>
		<dc:creator>www.lookedhardy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>top edhardy   denim&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lookedhardy.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.lookedhardy.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>top edhardy   denim<br /><a href="http://www.lookedhardy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lookedhardy.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: yonofoco</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/18/evangelical-christians-in-usa-help-spread-climate-denial-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-4044</link>
		<dc:creator>yonofoco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Christian myself, I&#039;m really ashamed at how much evangelical leaders have fanned the flame of denialism on GW.  Too me, it&#039;s no different than the flat earthers in the church hundreds of years ago.  This science doesn&#039;t contradict our faith, so why deny the overwhelming evidence?  It&#039;s more of a cultural clash than a clash with faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Christian myself, I&#39;m really ashamed at how much evangelical leaders have fanned the flame of denialism on GW.  Too me, it&#39;s no different than the flat earthers in the church hundreds of years ago.  This science doesn&#39;t contradict our faith, so why deny the overwhelming evidence?  It&#39;s more of a cultural clash than a clash with faith.</p>
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		<title>By: bible study</title>
		<link>http://www.green-blog.org/2009/04/18/evangelical-christians-in-usa-help-spread-climate-denial-and-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-3353</link>
		<dc:creator>bible study</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent post, I&#039;ll have to stop by here more often</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent post, I&#39;ll have to stop by here more often</p>
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